Imprisoned, Poisoned, Debanked, Deplatformed, and Unstoppable: Life as a Medical Missionary

Christian Elliot 

Okay, hello everyone. Welcome to today's show. It is my honor to have Mr. Mark Grenon join me on the show today. Mark has been a missionary for 47 years, including being a pilot in Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Colombia. And to me, his life story feels like a combination of a James Bond movie and the New Testament book of Acts. is remarkable what experience this man has had, so much so that we're going to need two episodes just to effectively scratch the surface. So,

In this episode, we're going to talk about Mark's really jaw-dropping story of learning how to help people heal physically. And back in 2006, out of a desperate need to find something to help himself and his family heal from a deadly flesh eating bacteria called MRSA, Mark took to the internet, back in the days when you could still get good health information online. And he came across Jim Humble's work with what at the time was called Miracle Mineral Supplement, or what today is known as chlorine.

dioxide and that forever changed the course of his life in many dramatic ways. So Mark, thank you for taking the time. It's an honor to have you. Welcome to the show.

 

Mark Grenon

It's a wonderful blessing. You take the time out to let us share our story. It really is. Not just for get our story out so people can know what's happened to us and hopefully get a pardon from Trump. That's the main reason. The secondary reason is to be healed, not be tied to a system that will just treat symptoms and keep you sick.

 

Christian Elliot

Mm-hmm. ⁓

 

Mark Grenon

It's like the car salesman, you know, he wants you to buy a car and the car manufacturers make them so they break down, right? They break. So they used to, I have a 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser in Columbia and it runs like a top. have a 2005 Honda CRV runs like a top. I don't like new cars. They don't last as long.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah. Something called planned obsolescence in there. I get it. So, all right. Well, let me see. I've listened to a few of your interviews and so I know you're pretty much the type of guest who can just interview himself. So I'll do my best to just tee you up and get out of the way. But before we get to the story of MRSA and chlorine dioxide, talk to us about two things. So first, how did you get into the work of becoming a medical missionary? And two, when did you become skeptical of the medical industrial complex and really see it for what it is?

 

Mark Grenon

I'll answer the second question first. You hear my voice? It's from the 1976 swine flu vaccine. It paralyzed the left side of my throat and I had some doctors coming down that did a surgery, put a prosthesis in it because this one was dead, say, and this one would be the one moving. So this one, it had the stretch too far.

So they pushed this one out. So this one doesn't strain so much. And so that was from a vaccine. So because of that, 50 people died, 500 got the Gillian-Barr syndrome that they know of. And that's what really paralyzed my vocal cord. I didn't know about it till 20 years later, but they settled $5 billion. I didn't get any of it because I didn't know about it.

 

That made me skeptical. I never vaccinated my kids. I have eight children. That's, well, that's kind of a lie. Because I think I did three of them, the, what do you call it? The tetanus shot to go to Africa as a missionary. I don't know why they had us do that, but I think I did that one.

 

Christian Elliot

Okay, so you've been skeptical of pharma since 1976 and that was kind of your awakening. That was when I was born. So you've been aware of this a lot longer than I have. So well done. Okay, well then talk about how did you get into the work of becoming a medical missionary?

 

Mark Grenon

After, maybe we can talk about this next second with the details of it, but after I got thrown out of Africa, Nigeria, because we had 100,000 people on our Bible course in Nigeria and I was living there, we started three churches in three years, we started a Bible Institute. And because so many Muslims were coming to us, the Muslim government basically said, get out of here, you're not getting your news.

Well, they didn't say it that way. They did not renew my visa, which there was no reason for it. So had to leave Nigeria after three years and I didn't know where to go. I didn't want to go back to the church. I helped found and work and pastor was going good because the guy taking over, it's not good if a guy comes back in the picture. He's the pastor. So I ended up in South Carolina.

 

Columbia, not Columbia, South America, but Columbia, South America, South Carolina. And the pastor was a instructor, a pilot, crazy guy, Vietnam pilot. Man, I didn't even know if I wanted to learn from this guy, but I learned how to fly an airplane. But he asked me one day, goes, Mark, I need help down in 80.

Caribbean, Turks and Caicos, and I need someone that's free like you to be a missionary down there. I'll teach you how to fly an airplane free, but you're gonna need an airplane because you have to island hop. I said, okay, all right, long story short, this is kind of funny, but I had no airplane. So I I hit the road raising money for an airplane. The pastors would ask me, why do you need an airplane?

Are you a pilot? I go, no. Well, why do you need airplane? Because to what I'm gonna be doing, I wanna buy the airplane, learn in the airplane, then I'm gonna be flying, then I'll leave. So I didn't raise much money, because they didn't really like that. You're not a pilot, well, what about if you fail? But one church in Great Falls, Montana, I preached one night about David and Goliath,

David having Goliath stored dropped back in his hands years after he had killed him. And the whole altar was full. I mean, it was, I still love that message to myself, never mind preaching it. But that night they raised all the money for the airplane. It was 20 grand. They raised it, boom, got the airplane. So I cut my mission, raising support.

 

Christian Elliot

Wow.

 

Mark Grenon

short, went back to South Carolina, started learning how to fly that airplane. Okay, so I was going to Haiti. Well, Haiti was bad. They were just getting ready to invade. Remember when the Americans invaded in the 90s? And it was really hard to live there as a missionary. So I went across the border into the Dominican Republic, about an hour from the border of Haiti. And I didn't know any Spanish. I knew all the

I didn't know any Spanish. I just started. This is, if you ever want to learn Spanish, or really any language, I learned this phrase, how do you say that? You know, like I hold this, how do you say this? How do you say that? And it's a basso. Okay, basso, basso, basso, basso, basso. And I just started speaking one word, two word sentences, you know.

 

I built up my vocabulary. So God bless me. are some people to Lord. I showed movies in Spanish because I couldn't speak Spanish. The one I used the most was the burning hell. ⁓ movie done in the sixties. I mean, you talk about zero, zero. What do call it? When you have, you know,

the word. can't even think in English sometimes. You know, when you have special effects, zero special effects, very crude, right? It was like watching a play. But man, did people really sit up and take notice of that. And so we built, I got a bunch of guys together and some ladies, and I started Bible and student church. I'd say within a year,

 

We had four five guys learning the Bible. And I said to myself, go, you know what we really need? We need people from America to come visit a third world country. And I lived to make Republic up in the mountains. It was third world shacks. Our family was a rich if they had a two room shack. Otherwise just one room. They ate, they slept. know, obviously they used to bathe them outside. ⁓

 

Christian Elliot

BAAA-

 

Mark Grenon

outhouse that they made. I wanted people to see it and see how friendly the people were. Because in Africa, these people had nothing, bro. Nothing. And we'd be singing songs, whatever they had, they'd give you. And I saw the same thing in the Dominican Republic. I'm like, this is what people need. They need a shock, especially teenagers, you know? And ⁓ to make a long story short,

 

Christian Elliot

Hmm.

 

Mark Grenon

In about five years, a lot of groups started coming down because I knew a lot of pastors and youth groups, church groups. Then a couple of years going medical teams. I mean, big ones. We had up to 100 people come and I was building a dormitory, but it was taking time. So we rent the hotel and downtown. And we had probably

probably on the average 16 to 20 weeks out of the year, medical teams, ⁓ surgeons, dentists, pharmacists, and we go triage people up in the mountains. My boys would help me because by then we were getting proficient in Spanish and they bring them down to the town where the hospital was. And they let us use the operating rooms. They loved American doctors. And what we did first,

We made sure that the politicians and the big people in the town, if they need any operations, their family was first because we were still trying to find people that needed it. But we knew we took care of the mayor, the head of the police and everything else. Their families, know, minor injuries, surgeries and stuff. lot of kids have umbilical hernias. So that's how I got into the medical.

 

Christian Elliot

and pick

 

Mark Grenon

They wanted me because of my language ability to work in the hospitals. And literally I was a surgical assistant. They even let me cut people open. I stitched people. mean, did held up, guts open. I did everything, literally. To one point after about five, six years, we're eating lunch and some guys that were

finishing up their internship, we're eating lunch, they go, so Mark, where did you go to school? I go, didn't. What? You know, surgery. go, well, I'm just practicing medicine like you guys are going to do. Just practice it. These guys are good teachers. And I practiced maybe 20 weeks out of the year. I've been doing it for about six years. Oh, they were like shocked. How could you do this? That's the kind of stuff you could do in a third world country.

I'm

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah. All right. Well, yeah, that's great background on how you kind of just became on the mission field known for helping people with their health. And so then fast forward, think it's 2006, was it? You and your family contract MRSA. So tell people, one, what that is, what the prognosis is, and then how that led you to find Jim Humble and chlorine dioxide.

Mark Grenon

Most people get MRSA, which stands for methicillin, which is basically a type of penicillin Resistant, staphylococcus aureus. So you're basically, it's resistant to any kind of penicillin. And that's what they use for lot of bacterial infections, right? So, and it's fleshy, there's no cure. They would just eat away the skin, then it go further and further, get in your blood, you got to cut. ⁓

Immediately a boil would be created, horrible looking. I have eight children. We got it from the hospital and it spread through the family. So now I'm dealing with this. I'm telling the doctors I had the latest and greatest antibiotics that these doctors could find. They even used them in surgery, time released. We had keflex, rosephin.

 

Christian Elliot

and

 

Mark Grenon

We had injectable ones, had time release capsules. Nothing touched it. The mercy got worse to the point where after a year or so having it, my son was on his leg, had a really bad boil and the doctor gave him some Mark. Probably gonna have to cut that out. And if it doesn't work, which most of time it doesn't, we'll have to amputate his leg to save his life. Cause it will get all through his body.

over 100,000 people die. I hear from mercy. So like, whoa. So we tried everything pharmaceutical wise. I told my son, John, we gotta do something and we gotta really start praying. All right. We're already praying, but we gotta pray harder. Cause this is what they'll have to do. And he goes, dad, no way. I'll go see Jesus before you cut my leg off. And he was playing baseball.

with the Seattle Mariners farm team in the Dominican Republic. So he's thinking, man, I want to come on and become a professional baseball player. He was really good. And I my kid to do it one leg. So as a father and for myself, I had a bet. I got on the internet, dial up back then, because where I was, we were up in the hills. I ran a line a mile. up the hill to have dialogue.

 

Christian Elliot

Okay.

 

Mark Grenon

So I get on, we dug wells for people, we improved the whole neighborhood, but I got on there, it pops this book that you already mentioned, Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century by Jim Humble. I'm like, believe in miracles. You know, I've prayed, we've prayed in churches and seen people healed, not miraculously erased and the dead, but

you know, like to go back into operating in the cancer, the cancer's gone or things like that. But not to say God can't do those other things. But I hadn't personally seen anybody raised from the dead or the blind see. But I have seen people recover from deathly things. And so I'm like, yeah, this sounds too snake oilish to me. Humble miracle.

 

This guy's a scammer. So I ignored the book, came back two weeks later because it's getting worse. Type in it again. Up comes that book. I'm like, all right, all right. Lord, I'm praying. I'm going to check it out. He offered the first book, first half of the book free. So I got it ready. like, you know, this doesn't really sound like Stanko. He's not asking for any money. So that's usually the first, you know, key.

It's snake oil. You're asking for money. He's over in Africa, giving it away, helping people and have all these results. Malaria being the first one, 100 % of the time being cured. And that's the number one pillar in the history of mankind, MRSA. So then he's finding out a cure in cancer, diabetes, AIDS, MRSA, infections, intestinal problems, vaginal problems.

 

All kinds of things. And so I like, got the second half of the book, read it real quick. I'm getting this stuff. Lord, I think you maybe sent this guy to me. So I ordered this stuff and we had a missionary plane. I didn't have my plane with me at the time. We had a missionary plane come in. Another missionary was borrowing my plane. So they would come into South Domingo, bring out mail and I was waiting.

 

I'm waiting to wait. As soon as that mail came, I ran to the Capitol two and a half hours, got it, started doing it because I didn't want to give it to my kids in it killed my kids. Yeah, I might. I don't know. So I'll sacrifice. I started drinking it. was the protocols then were different than they are now. It was pretty strong. You get a little diarrhea and so you naturally back down on the street.

 

That's what I to do, especially with my little kids. But in one week, Christian, one week, it dried up. Two weeks, you couldn't even tell that I this big boil, the size of a baseball, gone. And I'm like, wow. So obviously I started giving it to my kids and it's not the same thing happening with them. So I tell them the doctors, still coming down. Hey, look what happened. What? No, look.

 

No, well, they look it up. Stay away from it. Like, me? Why would I stay away from it? Because the FDA, they had a big pharma. It's poison. Well, I guess this poison cured me then. I'm not staying away from it. It's drying up on my teeth too. Basically, all the doctors ran. They stopped coming to me. And they were Christian guys. Love God. They just kind of stopped supporting me.

 

things started coming weird. Like, whoa, with this stuff called chlorine dioxide, miracle mineral supplement, MMS, this is pretty controversial. So I'm a controversial guy. I start using it. Say, okay, forget your doctors. I'm going to start using it everywhere I go as a missionary. And I started curing AIDS, diabetes, cancer, elephantitis.

Dengue, Vick fever, chicken goonya, all kinds of infections were healing quick. So I'm like, man, after two years of doing that, we opened a website called MMS for Hispaniola. That's the island of Haiti in Dominican Republic. And I started having people call me. I was getting the natural ingredients, two natural ingredients, sodium chloride.

 

Not chloride, salt, this was a mineral salt, chloride and citric acid or hydrochloric acid, which is in your stomach. Citric acid was a little rough on you, so we switched to hydrochloric acid, 4%. You know, could put it right in your mouth, it's weak. I write Jim, it's wild, how does that, I write Jim, I follow my experience.

because he had an email in his book, go, Jim, this is what I've been doing. Thank you for your book. Thank you for showing me how to heal my family. But this is what's coming out of it. He writes me back in a bottle, he goes, wow, Bob, that's Because you're in a different culture, different side of the earth, different people, and you have the exact same results I'm having when you use protocol consistently.

 

Said, yep. So, Japanese goes, keep in touch, buddy. This is great. It's growing around the world. A lot of people buy my book. Okay, cool. All right. Never the year goes by. I'll never forget. Me and my boys are saying, you need to take this around the world with the gospel. Because we can maybe like the apostles, we could heal people, not instantaneously. Sounds pretty quick. Like malaria within four hours.

Really, we did videos about it and everything. We'd blood tests before and after. But some things, I'll abscess to two hours. ⁓ Time's ticking quick. Some things take a month or two. So let's take it around the world. Let's stop praying. So me and my boys start praying. And so September of 2019, I'm gonna write Jim. We could sell the compound.

 

sell it to another mission and we'll go to Africa and kind of work with him at first, show him some of the stuff we've been doing and we'll end up taking it around the world. And I write him that he writes back within a day. Next day, Mark, do not sell your compa. They just, I just got out of jail in Malawi. They threw me in jail for two weeks. I had to pay $5,000, which is about 50,000 to us in order to come in Africa. $5,000 and they let me out, but they also, the government notified other countries and basically threw me out of Africa. So I have to go somewhere. Can I come to you? Sure, Jim. Yeah. When you come in, give me three months. He sends me, he doesn't know me from Adam's house cat, right?

 

He sends me 25,000 bucks and says, make me a place where I can live, where I can have air conditioning, I can study, because I'm going to start writing a second book and give me internet access, which we had to pay. We had to get a satellite dish, and even that didn't work good. So, three months later, January 2010, Jim Humble is living with us. I mean, that's a miracle right there.

 

Christian Elliot

I think earlier you said 2019, you probably meant 2009.

 

Mark Grenon 

I say 19. Yeah, I always do that. 2009, I started Brian. Okay. Yeah.

 

Christian Elliot

Okay, keep going. No, you're doing great.

 

Mark Grenon

keeping

that straight. Yeah. 2009, because some things happened in 2019, get that in my head too. 2009, we started praying, it came in 2010. And immediately, he said, listen, I want to seminars, I want to train people. This will be an international training institute for all things chlorine dioxide, MMS.

 

Okay, Jim, well, let's start a church. I already got a mission here, but let's start. You you got Christian science, you got, what's the one, Scientology, you got other places that spiritually and they kind of dabble with, even the Seventh-day Adventist, health and, you know, and all of us should. Anyway, I say, let's start one. We'll call it Genesis 2. of health and healing. Genesis two church of health and healing, the word church means a group of people, ecclesia, with a common purpose and a goal, basically. It used to be in Greece, a political name, ecclesia was first political. I said, let's do that. He goes, good, we'll call it Genesis two because it's a new beginning for health in the world.

 

Christian Elliot

Did you have the foresight at that point to know the protections having a church would offer you over what, let's say, just having a ⁓ business license would do for you?

 

Mark Grenon

Because as a pastor, I was street preaching one time and we got arrested on a sidewalk, public way, and we're preaching. It was really, it's kind of funny. We're preaching in front of Catholic church for their Las Vegas night. Okay? You say, why are you picking on Catholics? I wasn't. I was picking on the Las Vegas night.

because the town wouldn't let us put up in front of our church. A big sign that said, old fashioned day instead of Halloween, right? They wouldn't give us a permit, but they gave them one for Las Vegas night at the Catholic church. So we got upset. So we're preaching there. Mary didn't play craps, didn't play craps. Jesus didn't play blackjack. We had signs up and we're preaching, you know.

 

Anyways, it's kind of funny, but we were serious. So they arrested two of the guys. I wasn't there at the time when they arrest up, put him in jail. He got out of bail. But when we went to court, this is what I learned. We got to court. I came in as the pastor. And once the judge heard that this was a church, she dropped charges right away. You guys are a church preaching on the street corner.

Public way dropped. So I never forgot that. Churches have the First Amendment right of freedom of speech and the practice of what they believe. First Amendment, right? You'll find out later that the judge told the jury and said to them, you cannot consider the First Amendment in this case.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to that story shortly. yeah, keep going with so you've got Jim humble with you. He you start a Genesis to church to give yourself some protection from let's say your medical friends and other entities who don't want this message out. And so you start running seminars, tell people what happened then.

 

Mark Grenon

We set up a curriculum. I did Bible Institute. Jim is a smart guy. We designed the syllabus. We even had a CD course that people could come sitting explaining the 40 different protocols. So the first seminar, five months later, after he came, we had 45 people from 15 countries. I mean, it wasn't easy to get Dominican public, then take a bus two and a half hours, people didn't understand Spanish and then call us when they got to down and they come. So they were really serious people, right? And all had testimonies, all help people in their perspective countries. And it took off. So after three years, we even had the FDA send people down called broken sumador, which is like the FDA to try to shut us down.

 

I told them we're a church and they said, well, we can't shut you down. You're a church. can do this. We don't sell anything. Donations to our church covers everything we do. They're like, well, they had to leave. So that really kind of upset the FDA. Right. So I learned another thing. It's working. And I didn't start the church because of that. Honestly, they, the court and the newspapers say we start a fake church.

Fake church, I was a missionary 25 years at that time, training people. We're not a fake church. And the church says, take care of your temple, keep it clean. That's all we're doing, detoxing the body with something that the government's pure water, purify water with, you tell you to drink the water. So didn't make sense to me. We weren't doing anything wrong. So after three years,

 

One of the ladies that came to our first seminar, Kerri Rivera, she was an autistic kid doing really good with covering kids. After she left, she went and started recovering kids. Everybody wrote us that autism or Asperger's, is a hotel, send it Kerri. So she had a really beautiful house in Mexico, Puerto Vallarta. Jim said, Mark, I'm gonna go there, I'm so stuck, tired of the electricity being out all the time and the internet being so bad. She invited me to live there. It's a good trip. Go because you know what? I'm going to go to Columbia. I want to go down the Amazon. I want to deal with malaria and I want to sell the compound and go to Columbia. So, we split up not because of any problem because I went to have Mexico a couple of times to do

literally all the way to New Zealand. didn't make Asia. That was our next stop when I got arrested. Okay, so he's there. I'm in Columbia. I sell the compound. We use that basically to go around the world. do seminars, but in Columbia, we had a lot of doctors that were really sympathetic to natural means. So I did seminars. Doctors were

 

And then we left Columbia. We still live in there, we went, it did 63 seminars, 19 countries in 10 years. So now I'm up to 2020. But before I stop there, I want to tell you what happened. Jim wrote his second book with us. We collaborated together because we were proofread, had things to it. so that was like 2013. Yeah, right, 2000.

He printed it, then he left. Then I left in 2016. I wrote a book. Because now in 2016, we had been in, let's just say 40 seminars. We had done maybe 45. And we had like over 1,000, 1,500 people trained up on how to use the protocols. I did a documentary called Quantum Leap.

believe you have that link and ⁓ G. Edward Griffin, we published it when we were in jail because they took out everything from us. ⁓ Everything. They eventually took us off YouTube, three million views, took off my podcast called G2 Voice. They took us off a PayPal click bank, closed our church bank accounts. They even took

GoDaddy even took away our domain that we bought from them. Everywhere country we went to, they had in the news media, these people are coming telling you to drink bleach and be healed of all these things. It's a lie. They're scammers. We just kept going. We ignored them. They kicked down the door in England. We threw them out because we're a church. It was a church meeting.

 

They left, I had the people come in, their equivalent of FDA called Trading Standards. They came in. So I taught them why, and then we threw them out at the transfer. And so we had crazy things happen to us. CNN, Sky News, which is owned by Fox, by the way. ⁓ Articles from the Wall Street Journal, I mean, excuse me, Washington Post, New York Times, The Guardian.

 

So many newspapers lying about us saying people are dying. So let me fast forward. wrote two more books by 2020. And the guy that watched one guy that watched my documentary, a guy named Jeff, he put together one in 2020 or detailed because he'd been 30 years in ICU nurse. He was more technical. Very, very good one.

He put me on there also, but he put it together and that's been seen just like millions of people. Doctors like it because clinical studies, pictures before and after, doctors talking, scientists, chemists, very well done. So 2020 comes along. One of the guys says, Mark, I have people in the White House that I know.

Give me those two bottles. Give me your book, your first book. I gave it to him and he got it to Trump. Okay? That's when Trump mentioned there's a disinfectant that could probably cure this. They're saying really quickly. He said an hour and he called it a disinfectant. He didn't really know exactly what he was saying, but he said it. And boy Fauci and Dr. Burke,

 

The FDA went wild, big pharma. So they sent out a letter to 700 individuals, companies, if you're claiming that you can cure the coronavirus, we'll come and have to you, cease and desist, and we're gonna put an injunction on you. So they did. They sent 700 people, April 7th, 2020. I got it. And I wrote them a 35 page letter.

saying why we were not gonna stop as a church, why we have the right to come on, why you have no jurisdiction over a church, and we're gonna continue on. So everybody else ran, we didn't see anybody else keep going, so they gave us a temporary injunction. We didn't go to the courtroom because these courtrooms are not constitutional courtrooms.

 

You can't claim the constitution in an administrative court and that's what they all are. So then they did a temporary, a permanent injunction. My boys didn't go. This was America. Remember I'm in Columbia. The boys didn't show up. I wrote another, we are not coming to your fake court. We're not coming. So rest for a musician and now listen, contempt the court, do contempt the court.

charges and conspiracy to defraud the United States of America. Not the people, the United States of America. No one was being harmed. There was no claim that they harmed me. We died, my father died, nothing. So conspiracy charges a joke. We need to get rid of that.

 

Christian Elliot

Tell people why.

 

Mark Grenon

It was set up because of drug dealers. They could grab them without having much evidence, which isn't right. I met guys in jail that were grabbed. ⁓ They said, because you might sell cocaine one day by arresting you, they weren't caught with cocaine. I mean, crazy. So July 8th comes along 2020, Jordan and Jonathan are raided at the home church in Bradenton, Florida, ABC helicopter, US modules, EPA, sheriffs, local police, TV station, about 12 different agencies were there. They raided the church, took all our computers, which are church computers with church list of people that are members, which is, it's protected, just like a doctor and his patient or a lawyer and his client.

 

And they took all that took our phones took money and our safe. didn't have a lot, but we used a lot of that to help other people is we helped a lot of people as a church, but they left the guns guns were licensed guns. Okay. You me to stop there in case you

 

Christian Elliot

You're doing great. guess there's one other detail I think is, especially for my audience or people that appreciate there's a force that does not want this to come out. And so you had one story I've heard you tell where you got a phone call, I guess, Jim was with you from somebody you called James Bond, actually called you twice. But what I hope to have people see from somebody who's lived it is how pervasive this idea is. You even have a chapter in your book, Imagine a World Without Disease.

 

about the number of people who have come up with or found genuinely helpful natural cures or things that dramatically benefit health and they just end up dead. So give people a sense of the sinister nature of that. What's your estimate for how pervasive that problem is?

 

Mark Grenon

Before I tell you that story, they tried to kill me twice. They tried to blow up our car on the way to a seminar. A black suburban is following us and about six colleagues back in Arkansas, right? And as soon as we hear this, pow, what it did was they put something underneath on the tie rod to melt the tie rod. I can get into detail about that, but. Immediately the suburban took off into the distance. pulled over, the tire fell off, and we would have flipped if the tire fell off, but centrifugal force basically kept us alive till we could slow down. ⁓ then they poisoned me and brought my heart to Mexico, and chlorine dioxide saved my life. Put it down my throat, because I was completely paralyzed. Couldn't move, couldn't talk, and they put it down my mouth.

and all this green stuff came up and that's another story that's more detailed but it's in my book. ⁓ Basically a Russian spy and I know it was because I cured the person of hepatitis. Is that crazy? When I say I cured, I don't cure anybody.

 

Either this chlorine dioxide cure anybody. The body cures itself after you take the toxins out and causing the problem. So James Bond, okay, Jimmy just got there. I get this phone call. We did have phones in my little office up in the mountain. And I get this phone call. This guy calls me says, I'd to talk to Jim Humble I go, well, I'm, you know, I can show him. No one gets to him, it causes him a problem. So who is this? My name is Dr. Michael Mearing I said, okay, what do you want? He goes, well, I want to to Jim.

 

said, well, he's busy right now. I'm screening all the calls and he was busy. I wasn't lying. And I said, what are you gonna, he goes, okay, who are you? I said, Mark Grenon, goes, oh, Jimmy told me about you. Nice to meet you. I appreciate you being there with him, helping him. I okay, so what's the problem? goes, tell Jim this, that the Vatican bank is gonna go bankrupt. The Pope's gonna resign.

 

King of Belgium, a queen of Netherlands is gonna resign also. Greece is gonna, the banks are gonna take 40 % of the people's money. Spain's gonna collapse economy wise. There was a couple other things I can't really remember off the top of my head. If I think about it, but it's irrelevant. I said, okay, I'm writing this stuff down. Okay, whatever. Thought he was kind of a kooky guy really.

 

Nice guy, but so I tell Jim later on that afternoon, hey, this guy that Dr. Michael Mearing called, Michael Mearing, really? This is what he said. Jim goes, you know who that guy was? I go, no, it's the guy that E. Fleming wrote about called James Bond. I know him. He goes, what? I go, what James Bond called me? He goes, yeah, that's me. So all those things happen. Two years later.

I get another call, right? Hi, Mark, this is Michael. I go, yeah, I know who you are. Jim, how you doing? He left. I go, why don't you tell me you were James Bond? MI6 and all that crap because I don't really care. I get away from all that stuff and really want to help mankind. He was involved in getting AIDS, but in Africa. Basically said, I want to help heal mankind.

 

Christian Elliot

Peace.

 

Mark Grenon

So I go, well, I appreciate that. But all that stuff happened, man. That's crazy. He goes, well, I've been watching you guys for two years now. This is what I want to do. We have two bearer bonds, totally a number amount of five billion dollars in a bearer bond. As you know, you got the bearer bond. You can cash it. Whoever has the bearer can cash it because we're going to go up. I'm in Italy. We're going to go up to Switzerland.

and we're gonna cash these in. cool. He says, we're gonna give you $50 million because you guys are doing a good job. We have it. If you need any more, but take that as a down payment on what you guys have been doing. Go, go, go. Get this done, We're seeing you guys are really shaking up people. I said, okay, buddy, sure. And he basically hung up, told Jim.

two weeks later, three guys are going across the ⁓ Italian Alps into Austria and there's a gunfight and they're killed and they got these fake parabons. First of all, why would they kill people with fake parabons? Anyways, because they were trying to defend themselves, I don't know. They're dead. And about six weeks after that, Michael Mearing is killed and roped where he was staying in a hotel room, how thick it ran. Hopefully that wasn't because of that phone call, because our phones are always tapped. Like, ⁓ man. So anyways, that's the story of James Bond.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, well, it just shows conjecture in there, but it does show a level of if you've been had two attempts on your own life and there is a rich history as you document in your book of a number of people trying to bring out legitimate cures that just end up dead or in an alley or completely silenced and deplatformed, debank, et cetera, like you've been. It's just somewhat of a wake up call to say this is real people and there are things out there that help, but you are going to have to be able to find

other sources of information to get to what works and do so with some discernment, right?

 

Mark Grenon

And in my book, I went back 300 years to the beginning of the pharmaceutical medical industry. And before that, Christian, what did we do? Natural means. Hippocrates said, food is your medicine and medicine is your food. And he cured a lot of people with raw milk and raw honey. I drink raw milk. I get in my refrigerator right now.

 

Christian Elliot 

Right?

 

Mark Grenon

I drink raw milk almost every day. It really, really is good for you. The Bible says if you're blessed of God, your nation will flow with milk and honey. So, McBuckety's was just doing what the Bible said. So, let me fast forward, because I know time's slipping away here. So, my boys get arrested. 30 days later, well, I call, as soon as I heard that, I call, his wife calls me.

 

Christian Elliot 

Go for it.

 

Mark Grenon 

call the embassy, really I call the sheriff. They wouldn't talk to me in Manatee County, which they're supposed to be representing the constitution. Sheriff have more power than the president in their own country, county, excuse me. So they said, call the embassy. I call the embassy, talk to US module. Listen, they just kicked out my kids. What do mean? Yeah, the US government, Department of Justice, you guys just caught.

kidnapped my sons. They're missionaries. Well, where do you live? Took my phone number where I lived and 30 days later they kicked in the door and 6 a.m. in the morning it take me away and go to Bogota, Colombia. They paid a million bucks to keep me and my sons in Colombia. Why? Well, I believe they didn't want us on the TV.

on the radio, although I was from Columbia, I was doing interviews and they wanted you not to have a speedy trial to be publicized because when we get arrest, there was papers all over the world saying we got the scammers, people claiming that carrying COVID, I've not got COVID, the scammers that are AIDS and malaria, so they didn't want us on TV. ⁓

fact they wouldn't even get let reporters come to the jail I asked and Lorden hey we have the right to be interviewed no now you don't well that's pretty sick supposed to have freedom of speech even in jail no you lost all your rights really I couldn't vote they don't even let me vote now on probation and that

 

Christian Elliot 

Sick. Yeah.

 

Mark Grenon 

I spent two years there, but in Columbia, I've got, they want to give me two life sentences. They said, and conspiracy, two life sentences, conspiracy five years, conspiracy, a contempt of court, two life consecutive sentences, which you only get six months or a year. So you tell me, is that, what are they doing to me? Was this judge, you know, set up to come after us?

No one ever gets that. But because I was with all the drug dealers and they became my friends, because I was treating them every day, 40 to 50 guys were going to the oxide. We brought it in. We treated people. I got pictures of me there treating people. They liked me. They were billionaires, a lot of them. And they liked me. get this. Even share the word of God with many of them, really all of

because when they got treated, I had some Bible literature and I'd give it to them. So after two years, the Department of Justice says, we're to bring them in. Have they spent a million bucks? We want to bring them in for trial, okay? So Columbia says, you're not bringing anybody. We're not even going to extradite them. In fact, we're going to let them go because we don't

to get a life sentence or death penalty. What? So they dropped the contempt charges. That's how important they were. Okay, we'll drop those. Boom. I'm on a private jet with the biggest drug dealers in Columbia. Private jet, three of them. One of them was my, the biggest one was my cellmate. So we get there, they stretch it out, they send me to different parts of the country.

 

Christian Elliot 

Mm.

 

Mark Grenon 

I was the first in Miami with my sons. Then they say, you're incompetent. Then she goes, no, you're not. Then they say, yeah, you are. We're going to send you to Fort Worth, Texas. But three nights stopped to extend the trial, as much as they could, until July 17, 2023. They said, OK, we're going to have a trial now. We're going to pick the jury next Tuesday. We didn't have any lawyers.

 

defending ourselves. She didn't want us to. She appointed us lawyers. You're not defending yourself. Yes, we are. It's a constitutional right. Get out of here, lawyers. You made them sit. Don't even sit next to us. You're not our lawyers. We're not accepting you because you have to sign to accept them. So she goes, really? She's the chief justice. Her name is Cecilia Artonaga. She committed treason and many other things against us.

the prosecution, Homer and Shipley, federal prosecutors, they completely raped the Constitution or disregarded it. So she goes, we're the trial. We're at every hearing, we have our Bible, we're preaching, we're quoting Supreme Court decisions. She doesn't listen to any of it. She even said to me, I don't care what the Constitution says. I said, you're telling me

 

According to article six of the constitution, you're supposed to have an oath or affirmation to support the constitution. Can you show me that? She just looked at me like a calf looking at a new gate or a deer and she wouldn't answer. I said, well, let the record reflect that the judge is non-responsive. I asked her again, she wouldn't answer me. I had someone check it out. There's no record of her ever.

doing an oath of affirmation as federal judging is supposed to.

 

Christian Elliot 

Yeah. Podcast episode unto itself. unpack that. That's a heck of a different way to like, most people do not know how to stand on their constitutional rights, or how to pitch and hold a judge into making sure that they will honor the Constitution, or by their silence, and send in some ways agree that there that's what it is. So anyway, I would love to unpack that. But keep going with your story. Okay.

 

Mark Grenon 

So, we say we will not participate in this trial unless we have a seventh amendment trial by jury under common law.

 

You're going to have a trial. we're not. We're not going to participate unless it's under common law because we need a viable claim present that we harmed another man or woman, not a government. can't harm a corporation, a man or woman that we've harmed, just like Deuteronomy 19 says, bring them forth. Never brought them forth. Because if you're not bringing them forth, we will not participate. We didn't charge the jury.

She chose them all. So you can imagine they stacked it with pharmaceutical people, ⁓ law people, ⁓ nurses, ⁓ law officials, all kinds of people like that. Last of the day, they did not show any exculpatory evidence, which is they have to show stuff in favor for us. Didn't show any. And just as the jury's getting ready to deliberate, she goes.

 

and her instructions do not consider the First Amendment. I have it written out. I have it written out. It's on file. Do not consider the First Amendment in this case. You're trying to come up with a verdict. So they left 15 minutes later, they came back guilty in all counts. 15 minutes, right? Okay, talk about a setup. Talk about being railroaded. This railroad,

 

This train didn't even leave the station. They went out 15 minutes later back. And so I was guilty on the only one they had left. Conspiracy to commit fraud, which we didn't, to defraud the United States of America. Five years. The boys didn't have the conspiracy charges dropped. So they got five years plus another 91 months for contempt of court. That's why they're still in jail.

and I'm out with my son Joseph. And so they got an appeal. Some public defender, the head one, saw all this and said, I'll take the case. And he wrote 1,100 page appeal, but it could take up to two years. So we want to pardon.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, understandably.

 

Mark Grenon 

nothing wrong whatsoever. I don't know if I gave you the letter from Trump. Did I give you that letter?

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, I think so. I'll put all this stuff in the show notes. So you guys, if you want to go deeper and look at all that.

 

Mark Grenon

Send that in. They can send that in on behalf of the Grinning family to Trump to Bondi to Kennedy. But so in a nutshell, bro, that's what happened. And it's real. It's real. The powers that be do not want us to have chlorine dioxide called by NASA, the universal antidote. NASA called it that because when they use chlorine dioxide,

I Petri dishes against illnesses. It took care of all of them. They simply took universal antidote.

Christian Elliot

Yeah, right. Well, one more thing I want you to highlight just so the listener can have a little more context for how egregiously you were treated. Tell them about the prison conditions and what was done to you and how you almost died in prison.

 

Mark Grenon

Yeah well, it's horrible. I'll have to tell you, though, in Columbia it wasn't horrible. Being losing your freedom is horrible. They let my wife come in every two weeks visit for the whole day alone. So we had conjugal visits. The guys would provide steak, shrimp, we had chips. It was like something you'd see in the movies, but we couldn't leave. We had weightlifting places. Columbia was okay If you had money, and I had money, because the guys gave me everything I needed.

Mark Grenon

So America, Miami federal detention center is this I won't say hell, because hell is horrible. It was purgatory. Okay, it was a purgatorial place. We could strip search all the time. Buy. A lot of homosexuals would strip search us is a procuratorial place. We get strip shirts all the time. Why A lot of homosexuals would strip search us. The food on the boxes it says not fit for human consumption. Bro People, they wouldn't take care of you. The doctors, if you were sick, maybe would go see the doctor. Only if you really screamed and cried but you had a bad tooth, you're going to be in pain for a while. All that will do is pull it. You might wait six weeks Bad.

Mark Grenon

So I was supposed to be let out because of this program they had. I was going to get let out even before joe, about two months after they sentenced us to 2023, and I was all psyched because I was going to get up, start fighting for the boys right, and doing what we're doing right now doing interviews. So the day before, maybe a week before, they said, uh, once in a week was a was a few days, it was getting packed, mr Grannon, we do. We got rid of that program. Like what? How can you just get rid of it? You're headquarters of the Bureau of Presidents, told me I'm eligible, you can lie into me. Ah well, you're not going, we don't care, okay.

Mark Grenon

So my boys, that's the only thing that's good about Miami we're all together, two in each room, but we stay together, me and my sons, we cook together. We had to pay a lot of money to buy commissary, owned by the Bush family, get that one. So we buy tuna and I really hate tuna, but I learned to eat it in prison because family Get that one, right. So we buy, you know, tuna and I really hate tuna, but I learned to eat it in prison because it's real protein. We'd cook it in our sinks for hot water, make like a macaroni with tuna. We had to get some cheese, some olive oil. Anyways, we did okay, somewhat, but the food they gave us horrible.

Mark Grenon

So what happened? That day or soon thereafter I went. The bible even says hope deferred make it the heart sick. That's exactly what happened to me. I had this hope, this thing that I'm gonna go get out.

Mark Grenon

Boom, and the valve in my heart, the mitral valve in my heart, ruptured Just like flapping in the wind. It's supposed to be stomping the blood. This was like this. It was regurgitating, they call it. I blew up like the Michelin man.

Mark Grenon

My stomach, my legs, I was slurred. It was horrible, couldn't breathe, put pressure. I'm saying I need to talk to the doctor. Yeah, you'll be okay. No, I may have to tell you I can't breathe.

Mark Grenon

And it got worse. It was last about six weeks. The last two weeks I was suffering. Joe, my son was up top bunk. He got dead. He said I can't breathe, John.

Mark Grenon

Finally I pushed the emergency button. They come over. What's wrong? You're not having a heart attack? I said I think I am my heart's at 175. I didn't know what it was, dying, but I said it feels like it's coming out of my chest. I can't breathe. They're like God.

Mark Grenon

They brought me to the doctor and the doctor's like, hey, you're going to die. Call the ambulance. So they rushed me to Jackson Memorial Hospital. When I got there, the emergency doctor said why'd you wait so long? I said I haven't been waiting. The jail wouldn't bring me here. They wouldn't even doctor wouldn't even see me. I wrote the doctor too. I got those emails. Now he goes, well, we'll take care of you.

Mark Grenon

So they did an echocardiogram First. They stopped my heart and they redid it. They restarted it. It set the rhythm again, it went back to normal, but I still blowed it up. And so the echocardiogram they go. That's the problem. Right there I'm looking at it Inside my heart. That valve is just flapping. So they go.

Mark Grenon

We got to do open-heart surgery. Like what? I feel good, I'm lifting weights. You know, before I got that happened, we were working out every day. We were strong. My boys are doing one-arm pull-ups. I mean, no one screwed me, not because, not because of our preaching the gospel. I had three bodyguards my sons, but no one really were friendly with everybody. We were in the chapel. We never had a problem. But you could. If you were alone you could have a problem. So, anyways, they did the open-eyed surgery the open like a lobster as they say in Boston and it took a recovery. It's been a year now, as of February, and it was a recovery.

Mark Grenon

I had to learn to walk again. I went down 135 pounds. I was skin and bones. Now, I hate to say it, I'm 195. But I feel good Riding my bike. I'm doing push-ups, I'm drinking raw milk, eating steaks, I'm eating the stuff I tell people to eat to build their nutrition in their body. And so that's my story, bro. And we're begging people, beg, you know, really sincerely asking please get this letter, send it in. The addresses are there, just fill it out, put a little cover letter on behalf of the Gretchen family Envelope, send it off. And please, because we're asking people, trump, president Trump, Kennedy, bondi, help us. We didn't do anything wrong, nothing wrong. We've been missionaries. Not one of us has a record whatsoever.

Mark Grenon

They didn't even give us leniency First offender, Nothing bro. They gave us the max of everything. Yeah, you get in the crosshairs of the wrong people and there's a different justice system that they put you into and it's not got the word justice in it. It's just a system and you fell into it. So they demonetized you. I think they stopped social security payments. They basically just tried to bankrupt you completely.

Mark Grenon

Yep social security. I finally got it back about November because I've been a missionary A few months being a missionary. I don't get my social security because I didn't pay taxes.

Christian Elliot

Yeah.

Mark Grenon

So we have a gifts and go site that generous people around the world have given to and basically every month, almost to the penny, it takes care of all the needs of us in jail, as well as the families.

Christian Elliot

Yeah, yeah. So if any of you listening are inclined to be helpful, to give them the Give Send, Go where to go on there, if you know it by heart.

 

Mark Grenon

Otherwise I'll just put it in the show notes yeah, it's a www.givesendgo.com, all one word, givesendgo.com, forward slash capital G nine, capital A, capital T nine, g nine, a T nine and, like you said, you have a link right.

Christian Elliot

I will amplify this everywhere I can because it is egregious what has happened to you and you have done nothing but God's work, trying to help and heal literally I don't know how. I mean, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say millions of people have been helped.

Mark Grenon

Yeah, millions have been helped and it's incredible what's happened to us, bro.

Christian Elliot

People can also get your books as well, right, they can get those online. Yeah, I sent you the link. Okay, so we'll get you links to get his books and you can also contribute to him that way. But anything you can do, please amplify this, please share this episode, help this story get out so much that they cannot make it go away, because if we do not stand up against things like this, then we're next. So please, whoever is out there, do your part.

Mark Grenon

We'll say this one last thing Many, many men came to know the Lord by us being in jail, so God wanted us in the prison ministry for a while. That's all I can tell you.

Christian Elliot

Right, you and Paul and Peter and many others. It's just part of the life, so we'll talk more about this. If you think this was a whopper episode, wait till you hear what we have to say next. The amount of stuff he's experienced as a missionary will blow your mind. So to wrap this one up, is blow your mind.

Mark Grenon

So to wrap this one up, is there anything else you want to leave the listener with? Before we wrap? Pray for us people, please. If you're a praying person, pray, pray and pay attention. Get the books, because this can save your life or someone you know, I don't care what it is. If you learn the protocols, which is simple, this can save your life and restore your health from any illness.

Christian Elliot

Yep, all right. Well, mark, thank you so much for joining me today. It's such an honor to have you, and I'm eager to amplify this, so we will talk again soon. Thank you, Christian.