E21: Zen Honeycutt

The Shockingly-High Levels of Poisons in Foods You Might Be Eating Every Day

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Christian Elliot

Hello everyone, welcome to today's episode. My guest is Zen Honeycutt. So just a little background on her. She is the founding executive director of the nonprofit Moms Across America, which she started in 2013. It is a national coalition of unstoppable moms with the motto of empowered moms, healthy kids. Moms Across America has created over a thousand community events in all 50 states to raise awareness about GMOs, toxins in the food supply.

 

and other environmental issues that pose risks to the health of families. ⁓ Zen and Moms Across America also initiated the first glyphosate testing in America. And to my delight, they successfully petitioned Costco to remove a roundup from their shelves. So well done, Zen. She's also the author of Unstoppable and the director of a short film called Community Rising, which I watched and it's really good. She's the co-founder of a recently launched...

 

program called the Neighborhood Food Network, whose mission is to create a parallel food system one street at a time. So Zen, I love it. You cover so many of the topics that my wife and I have talked about over the years, and you've been in the trenches with your sleeves rolled up, doing the work, not waiting for Superman to show up. And you're just someone who inspires me greatly. So thank you for taking the time today. Welcome to the show.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Thank you, Christian, and I'm so glad you and your wife and your viewers are interested in these topics. We cannot get this information out there fast enough. So thank you for being part of spreading the word.

 

Christian Elliot

You're absolutely welcome. Well, it's a delight to have you. So for people who don't know you yet, just give us the, I guess, the backstory about your journey and how you got into the work you're doing today.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Sure, well, like millions of mothers or parents, I was struggling with my children's health issues. They had like 20 different allergies. They were rushing up and colic and screaming and all kinds of autism symptoms, asthma at one point, autoimmune issues. And my husband and I did not have those issues when we were little, right? It was just an all of a sudden thing and many of our friends' kids had the same things. So at one point I saw a TED Talk.

 

but from Robin O'Brien, Patriotism on a Plate. And I watched Jeffrey Smith's movie, Genetic Roulette, and I learned about GMOs and started making changes in the way we feed our children. And I quickly saw my children recover from health issues and ⁓ began to get interested in all kinds of toxins in the food supply, in the environment, as I'm sure we'll talk about vaccines and... ⁓

 

You know, many different health risks that our children face today. And as the saying goes, a worried mom does better research than the FBI. I became one of those moms. Yes, I'm sure many of the moms are there listening right now and the dads, you we just began to do the research and actually educate my doctor and, you know, read the science and speak up about it. And I started Moms Across America because I realized that a march on Washington would be very problematic for a lot of moms, especially with kids with autism.

 

But we could join into a local Fourth of July parade very easily and affordably and quickly. And we did that. And so we were in 179 groups all across the country on the same day, raising awareness with thousands locally, millions nationally in a single day. And that's what started Moms Across America. since then, as you said, we've had over 1,000 events and we've had, I believe it's about 100 million impressions now.

 

We've been doing this for over 11 years now and we'll keep doing it because our children are continually being exposed to toxins that are impacting their health.

 

Christian Elliot

Well done. Okay. with that frame, one other thing I want to clue the listeners in on just for context for the scrappy level of mama bear that you are. So I heard a different interview you did where you talked about having the courage to ask the pilots that were flying your plane about their vaccine status related to COVID, which takes guts to do. without me spoiling it, tell us that story and what happened.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Well, you know, as you could guess, I'm very concerned about the safety of myself getting from one end of the country to the other. Also at that time, there was a belief around Thanksgiving. And there were a lot of children coming home from college and a lot of people concerned about their loved ones traveling. And it was the height of the, ⁓ know, let's everybody get a booster sort of vaccination period of, you know, kind of like almost post COVID, but more boosters were happening.

 

And I had heard from Josh Yoder from US Freedom Flyers that there was a 300 % increase in injury of pilots and that some pilots were having heart attacks and they were having neurological episodes. And that was extremely concerning. And I thought, wait a second, shouldn't there be at least one pilot that's unvaccinated if they're going to be flying 300 something people around across the country? And so I just...

 

decided to ask the pilots before he got on the plane, can I ask you a question? They said, sure. And I said, can you tell me, either or both of you vaccinated? And they were both like, yes, we are. And we just got a heart checkup. And he didn't know it, but I knew that that heart checkup is not sufficient for pilots. It actually doesn't do the job of detecting clots. We can detect other types of things. And they don't detect inflammation and neurological issues.

 

So I did a TikTok about it and it went viral and it got to the desk of American Airlines, which is the airline I was flying on. And it got taken down. was the very first TikTok I've ever taken down. And I have posted about vaccines. I've posted about toxins and poisons and all kinds of things. That was the first TikTok I ever had taken down. ⁓ it did raise awareness. ⁓ I was sort of...

 

warned, maybe get off the plane the next flight that I was on, you like you can get off if you want to, you know, that kind of thing. ⁓ But, you know, obviously I made it safely and you know, many people are flying safely now, but there are a lot of ⁓ injuries and I strongly urge, especially pilots to reconsider getting any further boosters, especially for COVID.

 

Christian Elliot

Well, tell them the punchline though. didn't just ask, you had the courage to ask them a very uncomfortable question, but you also had something in particular. ⁓ yes.

 

Zen Honeycutt

I to have,

 

yes, ⁓ a friend had a vial of ⁓ the actual, the clots, the white. I don't even know if you can call them clots, but what they are doing is clotting up the veins. And so I had a vial with the clots in them and I showed them to the pilots and they were extremely uncomfortable about that. showing that on the TikTok, I think is what really made many people upset that.

 

that's what was happening inside of the cadavers of people is that their veins and arteries are being clogged up with this white substance. It's kind of like calamari. It's ⁓ extremely disturbing. And what I was told by the person who gave that loan, that file to me was that there was a cadaver of a person who was not vaccinated, but had received a blood transfusion from somebody who was vaccinated and his body also.

 

got filled up with that fibers substance, that white, clotty type substance. So getting transfusions from people who are vaccinated is also an extremely ⁓ risky, I think, ⁓ thing to do.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, well, thank you. So I wanted people to hear that brief story just so they could have context for the level of courage and tenacity that you bring to the study. So we're going to talk a lot about the toxins that you've recently found lurking in fast food and school lunches. But one other frame I wanted to have around this discussion is just we've kind of been like the fish that's been swimming in water that's slowly getting dirtier. And I was recently, just last night at a hotel with some friends that came into town to visit.

 

And on the wall, there's pictures of people at the beach from the 50s and 60s and 70s, and nobody's overweight. Everybody looks fine. And if you rewind history, you'll find there's something dramatic that changed in the last few decades. And if you compare, you know, the crowded beach somewhere in the USA or an airport or stadium or somewhere you go where people congregate, we are so used to seeing sick and overweight people that we just kind of perceive it to be normal. And it doesn't, we don't have to go back very far in history to recognize that's not.

 

historically been the case. And so there's something different about our context and so much of what you have found has helped us figure out why it is the case. So anything you want to add to that frame that I didn't cover or another angle on it before we get into some of the specifics of what you found.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Well, yes, I'd like to tie the two together briefly. You know, the fact we just mentioned vaccines and now we're going to be getting into fast food. The reason why I'm so interested in toxins is, yes, of course, our children's health, our family's health. And the fact is, is that the toxins that are being utilized, by the way, which much, which come from big oil, right? They are, they're the petroleum based chemicals that are basically the

 

byproduct of fuel. put them in pesticides and herbicides and fertilizers. So there's big oil involved. They're utilized in big ag, right, which is on monocrop industrial farming. And then these chemicals are also utilized and big pharma profits from them. And that is because the very same chemicals that make us sick that are being used in big ag are also ⁓

 

They're produced and made and sold by the very same companies who have sister companies that are the big pharmaceutical companies that sell us hundreds of medications that are supposed to make us better. So what we're talking about is a perfect profit circle. And what we found was that the chemicals in big ag, which, know, of course also come from big oil, ⁓ are contaminating the ingredients that are used in vaccines. And so moms across America, not only we initiated the first glyphosate testing,

 

but we also sent in five childhood vaccines and found glyphosate weed killer in all five of them. And so that's when we sort of bridged over or people saw us bridging between the vaccine health freedom movement and the food movement. It was not something that we intentionally set out to do to just make vaccines bad. We, my kids, were almost fully vaccinated. Okay. My dad was vaccinated. My dad was actually killed by vaccines, I believe.

 

⁓ But it was not something that I was not like an anti-vax person. I actually wanted to stay away from that topic for a very long time and just focus on the food supply. But when I saw the ingredients of vaccines, I knew that the bovine serum, the chicken serum, when I learned that gelatin comes from pigs, I knew, boy, these animals are fed GMOs sprayed with glyphosate. There's probably GMOs in these vaccines. There's probably glyphosate because we know glyphosate does not wash, or cook off.

 

And so we sent those vaccines in for testing and found glyphosate and all of them. And the MMR vaccine, which has been indicated in the gut disruption by Andy Wakefield, was the one that had 25 to 34 times higher the amount of glyphosate than the other vaccines. And that's because we believe ⁓ it's a live virus and the live virus needs more of a stabilizing agent. And that's what gelatin is, and it's derived from pigs that are fed GMO spray with glyphosate.

 

So these chemicals ⁓ that are being used from big oil and big ag are contaminating big pharma and also big pharma benefits from that sickness that is created by big oil and big ag. So it's all connected. It's all connected and your vote matters if you are voting for somebody that gets funding from any of these companies. Big tech is involved too, by the way, folks, with the information that we're receiving or not receiving.

 

If you are voting for anybody who receives money from these big entities, they are not your candidate. They are working for them, not for you. So I would really urge you to consider that as well. So thanks for giving me a little bit more of an overview on why we're really going up against these corporations, you know, that are polluting us.

 

Christian Elliot

And that's a fantastic framing because really my investigation has been similar. You can't stay just in one lane without realizing how much it spills over into so many other areas of our economy, our healthcare, the journalism that now we're living under that's not really journalism anymore and on and on. So a great way of connecting those dots. Thank you for that. So for people who don't know necessarily what glyphosate is, just give us a quick minute or two on glyphosate and some of the dangers of it. Then we'll get into, because that'll help frame why it's relevant that it's showing up in so many.

 

different foods, fast food or school lunches.

 

Zen Honeycutt

So important, thank you. Glyphosate is the most widely used herbicide in the world. Most people know it as Roundup or Ranger Pro. So up until this past year and maybe even still this year in some cases, because they haven't sold it out yet, Roundup was still available in your local hardware store and you've been able to spray it wherever you want in your backyard, your sidewalks, your parks, you know, and the cities have sprayed it in parks and playgrounds, 20 million pounds a year. Farmers have sprayed it up to the tune of 280 million pounds a year on our crops.

 

And not just the crops that are genetically modified to withstand it, such as ⁓ GMO genetically modified soy and corn and canola and sugar beets. are the primary crops. Like 85 to 90 to 100 % of the crops grown in the US are GMO genetically engineered to, 80 % of them are genetically engineered to withstand just Roundup alone and some combination of Roundup, 2, 4-D, different chemicals. However, it's not only sprayed on

 

GMOs, it's also sprayed on crops as a drying agent. And this is the real kicker. So the farmers spray it just before harvest, maybe a week or two before harvest, and the residues stay on the crop. They don't wash dry or cook off. So we consume those residues. And the problem is, that we're not roundup ready, like the GMO crops, right? And we don't want our minerals and vital nutrients to be chelated from us the way that's what happens in the drying process of it basically kills the crop.

 

It dries it out and glyphosate functions as a chelator. It grabs onto and makes unavailable the vital nutrients of any living thing it touches. So it basically gives the plant aids. And so the plant can't defend itself and that's why the weed dies and it dries out. That's why the crop is all dry uniformly. It also acts as an antibiotic. It kills off the beneficial gut bacteria.

 

and the beneficial bacteria in the soil and allows for the pathogenic bacteria to proliferate. So you've heard about the bacteria in baby food killing babies. You've heard about bacteria in chickens, antibiotic resistant bugs in chickens killing off millions of chickens. ⁓ People having antibiotic resistant ⁓ bacteria. There's a reason for that.

 

That's because glyphosate is sprayed to the tune of 280 million pounds a year on our crops. And ⁓ again, does not wash, or cook off. So we're consumed. We've found levels to the hundreds to the thousands of parts per billion in animal feed and hundreds of parts per billion in human feed, human food. And it only takes 0.1 parts per billion or one part per billion in different cases to cause liver and kidney damage and sex hormone disruption.

 

very smart words.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, great framing because hopefully now people are starting to connect dots back to our crowded beach and why we're so overweight these days and so sick and so many people have.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Because we're starving for nutrition. We're starving for nutrition. don't have the minerals and vitamins in our food the way that we used to. And ⁓ glyphosate is chelating out those minerals and nutrients. And we'll talk about that with the testing that we did. And when people are starving from nutrition, they eat more.

 

Also, kills off the beneficial gut bacteria where serotonin and melatonin are stored and held in the gut. And you need serotonin in order to feel content. If you don't feel content, you're not going to stop eating. You're not going to stop doing porn ⁓ or alcohol or gambling, or you're going to develop addictive behaviors if you don't have enough serotonin to feel satiated.

 

So there's a lot of, there's the mental health aspect and then there's the physical health aspect, why people are getting obese and why people look very, very different on the beach today than they used to.

 

Christian Elliot

Right. Well, you and your organization recently did just some fantastic, I guess we could also say sickening or disturbing studies about some of the contamination found in both fast food and school lunches. we'll just, I guess, start with fast food. So tell us about that study. How was it conceived? How many companies did you test? And what did you find in the fast food companies that you tested?

 

Zen Honeycutt

Right. Yes. So we recent most recently, just this past week or two, released the testing on fast foods. But we did test fast food because when we tested school lunches, we learned that ⁓ many, maybe not the majority, but many of the suppliers that provide the food to our school lunches are fast food suppliers. The rest of it could be Cargill, know, ⁓ Cisco, ⁓ Domino's, Burger King, right? They are supplying fast food.

 

to our schools, they're not allowed to advertise, only Impossible Foods has been allowed to do that, to advertise to our children. And Lunchables will soon be doing that. But we learned that the fast food suppliers are supplying food to school lunches, so we tested them for glyphosate and Ampa. Ampa's the breakdown of glyphosate, the top 20 brands. Plus we added in and out because some of our board members are from California and really wanted to have this quote unquote healthier version of fast food tested.

 

So we tested 21 different brands from 20 different locations. I believe one was from the same location, but at least 20 different ⁓ states and locations across the country. We tested for 236 different pesticides, for PFAS, for phthalates, for the top four heavy metals, for ⁓ many different types of mineral content. And we tested the top 10 brands because it's so expensive.

 

We only tested the top 10, but we tested them for 104 veterinary drugs and hormones, for vitamin Bs, and I want to get into why that's so important, and also for calories. And we did this because 85 million Americans eat fast food every day.

 

Christian Elliot

Mm.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Yeah. And the results, you want me to get jive right into the results?

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, just go ahead, go for fast food and then we'll go to school lunches.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Okay, yeah. So the results were really just very disturbing. As you said sickening, 40 to 60 % of the top 10 fast food brands contained antibiotics. ⁓ They were called Monocin and Naricin, and they're not approved for human use. They've been shown to be severely harmful to humans with consumption. And they've been shown to be highly toxic to dogs and horses, for instance, when feed was cross contaminated.

 

⁓ and make the hind legs of the dogs and horses paralyzed or dysfunctional. So, and what that also does is antibiotic is it causes the weight gain of beef and dairy cattle. So it's widely used in beef. And ⁓ so, you know, when you look at those pictures with people that have gained weight and they have

 

purplish sort of legs, have neuropathy and restless leg syndrome. I can't help but wonder if they have been consuming these antibiotics that cause these problems, know, in dogs and horses and ⁓ weight gain and beef and dairy cattle. You know, just one just needs to wonder. That's just a theory of mine. And, you know, and the consumption of antibiotics in our food, of course, increases the risk of antibiotic resistance. You know, we're not being prescribed these antibiotics. We're eating them.

 

unbeknownst to us on probably a daily basis for many people. And so that causes, and it can contribute to antibiotic resistance. We also found in a Chick-fil-A sandwich ⁓ that it contained an anti-parasitic called Nicarbazin, and it's also a known aviary contraceptive. And so they cannot give this anti-parasitic, it's for coca-cidus, it's a common chicken disease that's in confined animal feeding operations. They have lots of diseases. So they give them

 

this anti-parasitic to prevent that or to treat it. But they can't give it to egg-laying chickens because it will prevent them from laying eggs. But they do give it to meat or chickens. And they also give this ⁓ parasitic and aviary contraceptive to pigeons and geese around the world to prevent them from laying eggs around airports or parks or buildings that they don't want to have these birds at. So it's a known aviary contraceptive. ⁓

 

Who knows what that's doing to humans on a daily basis?

 

Christian Elliot

and shows

 

up in your Chick-fil-A sandwich.

 

Zen Honeycutt

It is, it has been found in a Chick-fil-A sandwich. And ⁓ of course we would like to test more to find out where else it might be in other chicken products or other products. Now, 100 % of the top 20 fast food brands plus one plus in and out contain glyphosate. 100%, some were trace levels, but others were detectable and high levels. Panera Bread had the highest level of glyphosate, the one that claims to have clean, wholesome food.

 

And so we are in the process of starting a petition. We hope that people will sign it. You'll, be sending out a newsletter from moms across America about it to ask Panera Bread to stick to their commitment of clean, wholesome food and to inform their suppliers that they are going to transition to only wheat, purchasing wheat that has not been sprayed with glyphosate. There are many countries around the world that are doing this. Farmers did it for thousands of years. We do not need to spray crops with glyphosate as a drying agent to harvest them.

 

⁓ It's simply or other toxic chemicals. It doesn't need to happen. So So please do keep an eye out for that subway was the next highest The wheat is coming into the fast food products through the bread through the wheat predominantly is what we see but also through the soy for instance the impossible burger products the impossible foods products that we tested the and the impossible breakfast sausage in the Starbucks sandwich and the impossible burger at from Burger King

 

both had double the amount of glyphosate than their meat counterparts. And we believe that's from the soy, because one of the primary ingredients is the soy in the Impossible Burger. So the fact that the marketing company implies that Impossible Foods is a healthier choice if you're going to eat fast food is simply untrue, especially from the stance of glyphosate. It's simply untrue.

 

So 76 % of the top 20 fast food brands plus one contained ⁓ a one to nine of 27 harmful pesticides. Some products contain nine different pesticides. And there's no synergistic testing that's been done about that, Christian. know, everybody knows when you put baking soda and vinegar together in second grade, you make a volcano-like, lava-like eruption, right? We don't know what nine different pesticides are doing in your body.

 

Christian Elliot

It's the same

 

with medications too. Most people don't know that they think this medicine they've got has gone through the double blind placebo study and it's supposed to be safe. What they've never done is test two medications at the same time. There's no study on any of them and how many people are on more than one medication. It's similar with these chemicals you're finding in the food. Nobody has any idea. We just know our health is eroding and something's off.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Yes, absolutely. Good point. And 100 % of the top 20 fast food brands plus one contained heavy metal cadmium. some were levels between 100 % between 74 to 1158 % higher than what the EPA allows in drinking water. And cadmium is highly toxic and highly carcinogenic. It was found the highest level was found in an in and out in in and out French fries.

 

You know, the potatoes and the sweet potatoes are absorbing the heavy metals in the soil. So this could be why some people feel much better cutting out, you know, potatoes and cutting out wheat, right? Because of the glyphosate and they're eating these paleo diets or just meat or just vegetables ⁓ from clean sources. Obviously, I think this is one of the reasons why 100 % of the samples also contained lead, at least trace amounts of lead.

 

And the highest amount was 912 % higher than what the EPA allows in drinking water. And it was found in a Sonic Drive-In cheeseburger. The ⁓ meat, we believe, is from the source of the meat. The large animals can absorb lead. And 100 % of the samples had abysmally low levels of vitamin Bs, essential for brain function that impacts criminal and violent behavior. And I'd like to talk.

 

a little bit more about the importance of vitamin Bs.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah,

 

yeah. Well, yeah, go for it. Do that or we can go to school lunches and wrap that B deficiency in there as well. Okay. Yeah, sure.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Yeah, we didn't test school lunches for vitamin Bs, but this sparked the school lunches to test this further results. So I will address that. So the school lunches, 95.3 % of them had carcinogenic endocrine disrupting liver disease causing neurotoxic glyphosate. 95.3%. And these numbers, by the way, are the 95.3 % in school lunches and 100 % fast food.

 

are very disturbing, not just because of the high numbers, but because in comparison to food tested in grocery stores, Canadian Food Inspection Agency and the Detox Project and GMO for USA and all these other companies that tested in addition to moms across America, we on average found 60 % positive for glyphosate in grocery stores. So these levels are much higher and of course very concerning. 74 % of the sample.

 

Christian Elliot

get into some of the percentages and stats, tell us how many schools you tested and where they were.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Sure. It was 18 different schools, the children and obviously the parents sent in samples from 18 different schools, 43 different samples. they were all across the country and they were all public schools, but the suppliers for public schools are often the same as private schools. So I wouldn't, I would never assume just because your child goes to a private school that they're getting, you know, any better quality lunches, unless you, you're new, you and the parents have, you know, rallied for it. Okay. So, ⁓

 

Yeah, and by the way, none of these samples were, sorry about that noise, but none of these samples were tampered with. know, the people took the sample, put it in a Ziploc bag, froze it for the fast food. They were in the original packaging. They didn't take anything out of the packaging. They didn't touch any food. There was no contamination possibility there. 74 % of the samples from school lunches contained at least one of 29 different harmful pesticides.

 

high levels of veterinary drugs and hormones were found in nine school lunches samples, so even more in the school samples, up to 130 parts per billion, which is very high. The lab was shocked, they'd never seen levels that high. And some of the veterinary drugs and hormones that we know that are being given to the animals, we are concerned or showing up. I don't remember if there was a particular one here, but.

 

For instance, there was a school, I have a school counselor friend who told me that a 15 year old girl came into her office one day and was crying because she had been lactating in the shower. She was producing milk, she wasn't pregnant. She was on any kind of birth control or anything. And now we know why, we know because the veterinary drugs and hormones are getting into the school lunches or other meat that they eat from other places. And there's hormones that cause cows to lactate to produce more milk. And we humans are consuming that, right?

 

very concerning and 100 % of the school lunches contained heavy metals. Some of the levels were up to 6,293 times higher than what the EPA allows in drinking water. And of course, the majority of the samples were abysmally low in nutrients. You ⁓ you'd have to eat 70 something, know, servings of some of these foods to get the proper nutrients that you would need to have on a daily ⁓ basis.

 

our children, some of the kids are only eating school lunches. They don't have the resources at home to have other food. So we're extremely, extremely concerned about the lack of nutrients as well in the food.

 

Christian Elliot

Can you repeat the number for the heavy metal? How many orders of magma is he going be on safe limits?

 

Zen Honeycutt

6,293 times higher than what the EPA allows in drinking water.

 

Christian Elliot

Right. you recently, didn't you recently dialogue with the EPA about this problem?

 

Zen Honeycutt

Well, not with the EPA about heavy metals. There was another group that did it, it was a congressional, there was a congressional briefing and a study on heavy metals in baby food. And their levels in the baby food were in the hundreds of parts per billion as well, know, thousands of times higher than what has been shown, ⁓ you know, what the EPA allows in drinking water.

 

And they did put forth some sort of policy that's called closer to zero. Like they're trying to, within a couple of years, get closer to zero of heavy metals and baby food. And they're looking into the source of that. You know, is it coming from the machinery that grinds up the spices? They're finding high levels in cinnamon and some of the vitamins and things that are added to the baby food.

 

but they're also finding high levels of heavy metals in root vegetables and sweet potatoes and potatoes, just like we found in the French fries. So I'm sorry folks, but French fries are not a good option if you want to avoid heavy metals. If you are a big consumer of French fries, ⁓ I would get tested for heavy metals. I would check your levels.

 

Christian Elliot

Wow. Okay, so I guess my next question, you've started answering it because one thing I've been trying to get my head around, and it can force some uncomfortable questions, but as a society, we kind of wrestle with where would this be coming from? And I can make the case that yes, they're putting glyphosate and there's pesticides and preservatives and food dyes and corn syrup, and that would explain some of what's happened to the soil. But I've had a hard time saying, how do we get 6,293 times the amount of heavy metals?

 

into something. there a rational explanation for that? Because it's easy to say. Is this intentional? Is there some level of poisoning going on? what is it? No.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Well, so, you know, I don't like to ever interpret anybody's intention. Unless I have concrete results, I don't like to say like, just point blank, the government's trying to kill us or somebody in particular is trying to kill us, Unless I see concrete evidence of that. But what I do know is the government knows this is happening and they're allowing it. And that is to me, criminal neglect and complete, you know, ⁓ it's criminal. And I do know from

 

from farmers and scientists of 60 year plant pathologist, Huber, who's one of our advisors, that what they're finding is that, we know the function of glyphosate is a key layer, right? So it grabs onto these heavy minerals. And it was shown in the very beginning to to clean out pipes, just steel pipe to take to strip the chemical and metals like off the inside of the pipes, right? To take it out. And we believe this is why in Flint,

 

Michigan, were such high levels of lead in the water because upstream was a GMO sugar farm fields, lots of them. And so the glyphosate from the GMO sugar crops is getting into the water and it's chelating the lead out of the pipes and putting it into the water supply. And what happens with these GMO crops is that not only does the heavy metals go into the water supply,

 

They go into the fertilizers that, the animals are eating this feed sprayed with glyphosate. It grabs onto these heavy metals. There's heavy metals in the glyphosate, by the way, Serolini study has shown that arsenic and, many different head of heavy metals in the pesticides. Remember we talked about the petroleum companies, right? They're sludge. They put it into the pesticides. And so the animals eat these pesticides. It collects in their bodies and it collects in the feces.

 

the feces goes on the crops, it's uptaken into the crop through the soil and the manure. And so we believe the primary source of these heavy metals is the manure. And this is why some of the organic food samples have had higher levels of heavy metals. Unfortunately, I'm so sorry to say this.

 

because the organic farmers aren't allowed to use direct inputs of chemical inputs, like nitrogen and phosphorus and things like that. They have to use fertilizers. And unfortunately, many of the fertilizers can be from confined animal feeding operations where the animals have been fed GMOs and glyphosate with heavy metals in the pesticides and in the feces. So this is why we are standing for transformation of the food industry.

 

We're not just saying, you know, the conventional farming people need to clean up their act and organic food is perfectly safe. No, it's not. Organic food is being contaminated by the industrial farming industry. And so the entire food system needs to be transformed in order to transform health in America and beyond, which is our, which is our goal. So, ⁓ it's, it's a major problem and it's, and it's not just the heavy metals being

 

chelated and it like put into, know, ⁓ and by the way, glyphosate crosses the blood brain barrier. So it can carry those heavy metals right into the brain like aluminum, right? That's the number one ingredient in the DTaP vaccine can go straight into the brain and ⁓ impact the brain. And that's what they're finding higher levels of aluminum and people with Alzheimer's and ⁓ autism. It's also, you know, depleting the minerals. And for instance,

 

There was a study in August celebration by Linda Grover in 1948 that found spinach contained 158 milligrams of iron for each 100 grams. And 25 years later, the same amount of spinach contained 2.2 milligrams. So somebody would have to eat 75 portions of spinach today to get the same amount of iron that they did back in 1948. Wow.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, there's just so much that is explained by this now.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Yeah, and it explains, and that shows this. had the same type of results showing that ⁓ the, if a child wanted to, children with autism have an imbalance of copper and zinc, right? And if a child were to consume just chicken nuggets, he would have to consume nine servings of chicken nuggets in one day to get the proper level of copper. The chicken nuggets from Chick-fil-A. A woman would have to consume 333 sandwiches.

 

Chick-fil-A sandwiches to consume, to get the proper amount of vitamin B3, vitamin B3 for her day. A man would have to consume 380. So this is how nutrient deficient fast food and the school lunches are and why people are overeating. And if I could talk about vitamin B3 for a little bit, were very happy to be able to test for vitamin Bs because since the beginning of my days, finding out about the food supply, you know, 12 years ago, a little over 12, maybe close to 13 now.

 

⁓ I read a book called Food and Behavior, A Natural Connection by Barbara Reed Stitt, and she is a lifetime achievement award winner who did a 20 year study and her studies included one year, at least one year long studies on prison systems, different prison systems in different schools. And what she found was that the parolees, serial killers and criminals and the high school dropouts all had one thing in common.

 

And it was not that they were black and lived in urban cities, as many people would suspect, considering the prison population, right? It was actually that they bragged that they lived on junk food and they had low levels of vitamin B3 in their brains. And that vitamin is essential for prefrontal cortex development and for good decision-making. And when she switched out the food from the highly processed junk food and sugars and

 

ripped food dyes and preservatives that they're eating to whole healthy foods. The recidivism rate in the prison switched. Instead of 70 % coming back in a year, 70 % stayed out. And in the high schools, of in a school of 5,000, instead of 500 dropping out, only 14 dropped out. And a significantly higher number went on to go to college. So she showed this in her lifetime achievement award winning work.

 

Another prison did a double blind placebo study where they gave prisoners a sum of, gave some prisoners minerals and they gave other ⁓ prisoners a placebo, you know, a supplement. And the ones that got the supplements and the minerals had a 37 % drop in criminal behavior and aggressive behavior in the prison. Cause you know, all the aggressive behavior is logged and recorded, right? So there has been a link to decreased aggressive behavior with proper nutrition.

 

And this has shown up in an animal study out of University of Strasburg. There was a scientist named Tissier who studied the declining hamster population in a monocrop cornfield. The hamsters were dying off and the farmer didn't know why and wanted to study. So they studied and they found that ⁓ the soil for that, first of all, for the monocrop cornfield was almost like sand. It was completely devoid of nutrients. Surprise, surprise, monocrop corn, know, sprayed with glyphosate and toxic chemicals.

 

And what they found was a very disturbing behavior in the hamsters. The mother hamsters were cannibalistic. They were eating their young on the first day of life. And when they tested the mother hamsters, guess which vitamin they were devoid of? Vitamin B3. And when they were administered this one vitamin, vitamin B3, the cannibalistic behavior completely stopped. So one has to ask.

 

Could we diminish or stop the violent behavior in America simply by having safe, non-toxic, nutrient-dense food? Do we really need more gun laws, which criminals are not going to follow? Another example, a tragic shooting just happened yesterday. That person is not following any type of law. ⁓ Or do we need to look at the toxins that we are feeding the American public on a daily basis? I would assert that all attention, political,

 

and resources need to be focused on giving access to non-toxic nutrient dense safe food. It is a matter of national homeland security and it is a matter of criminal behavior in not addressing this fact. Setting this to the side and saying it's okay to feed our public a neurotoxin and to feed them poisons is simply not okay. I'm outraged. I'm outraged that the USDA knows this, the EPA knows this, the FDA knows this.

 

all at the highest levels. know who we are. They know what we're asking for. They know that these shootings continue to happen and they know that they can do something about it. And number one thing they can do, because I know you're going to ask me on an exit, stop spraying glyphosate and other toxic chemicals as a drying agent on our food. Does not need to be done. It's not necessary. We have farmed for thousands of years without toxic chemicals.

 

Christian Elliot

Go ahead.

 

Zen Honeycutt

We do not need them. Farmers can farm other ways. are regenerative, there's 17,000 organic farmers across the country farming successfully. There's regenerative organic farming, which is, you know, being supported by Rodale Institute and Kiss the Ground and Farmers' Footprints and all kinds of regenerative organic certification. It's happening, folks. We have solutions. Farmers know how to farm this way without toxic chemicals. They can do it. And when it's done,

 

And when mothers have and fathers have access to it for their foods, you see miracles. For instance, a woman from Moms Across America called me and she had her friend in the room who there was a language barrier. She was a low income Hispanic single mom of four kids. And she want her friend wanted her to call me to tell me the story. And it was after the school shooting in Florida, I believe it was after another school shooting. And she said, I want you to know that I

 

I want you to keep doing what you're doing. Because when my son was nine years old, he had a mental health issue. And I told the school and they ignored me. And then one day they called me and said, you need to come pick up your son from school. He just threatened to blow up the school with a bomb. And she said, well, I told you he has a mental health issue. And they said, OK, fine. We'll send him to a psychiatrist. So they sent him to a psychiatrist. And the psychiatrist said, here you go. Here's an SSRI, you know, an antidepressant.

 

And she's like, that's it. Isn't there something else I can do? You know, she was concerned about the side effects and having given this drug his whole life. And he said, well, it's either that, or you can think about what you're feeding him. And she's like, what do you mean? He said, well, what are you feeding him? She said, well, you know, tacos and hot dogs and pizza and soda and, know, whatever I can have hamburgers, whatever I can get into him. He's very picky, which is very common with people with mental illness. And, ⁓

 

And he said well you could either feed him organic and avoid the know pesticides and GMOs and food dyes and preservatives and toxins in the food supply or you can give him this drug and so she decided to give her child all organic food and within two weeks the school called her and said we don't know what you're doing but this is a completely new human being keep doing what you're doing and She had called me on that day because it was after the school shooting and she said I want you to know that my son is now 17

 

And I know that he would have been one of those kids that would have gone out to Walmart and bought a gun and been a shooter at his school. But he's not because he's healthy and happy. He's eating organic food. He's growing community gardens. He's a responsible young man. And I got chills because I was like, you gave your son a new future by just feeding him organic food. In fact, you gave everybody at that entire school a new future because they're not traumatized by a school shooting.

 

And I would assert you may have even given the whole country a new future because who knows what this young man will invent, whether or he'll run for office, you know, what will he contribute to society that will make a difference for us in our country and our world? And so that's what we're doing is we are raising awareness and, and, and invoking hopefully inspiring action for people to protect the future of this country, for people to prevent violence, for people to

 

foster loving relationships. When you feel good, you are loving in your relationship. You are not a crabby, cantankerous person that somebody wants to divorce or, you know, boot out of your house or kick out of school, right? Relationships are deeply impacted by the way we feel because of the food that we just ate. And so

 

So we are advocating for this for the future of our country. And we hope that your listeners will too. And you will have the courage to speak up and tell your friends and family about this information. What you eat matters. Within days or weeks, you will feel better by eating organic food. You absolutely will. Try it. If you don't believe me, try it. Go 100%. You have to go 100 % though. You can't put out a campfire with a teaspoon of fuel.

 

You have to stop putting the fuel on it all together and let the fire burn out. Same thing within your body. If you've got inflammation in your body because you've been introducing toxins to it, you have to go 100 % cold turkey, like no gluten, no dairy, no sugar, all organic, that kind of thing. But within days or weeks, I would assert that you will feel better. You'll sleep better. Your mood will be better. You'll have more energy. You'll have more clarity. It's fantastic.

 

Christian Elliot

Obviously, and you are such an eloquent advocate for just rethink and gentle. You're a mom. You've lived it. You've been through it and you have done the work to help people find the answers and nudge them toward better behavior toward healthier lifestyles. And so it's such an honor. It's almost like you're saying maybe we don't need big tech and big food in order to feed the world. Maybe we can take this back and do it ourselves. so fantastic.

 

Zen Honeycutt

Well

 

said. Thank you.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah,

 

Okay, well anything else you want to add that we didn't cover today in terms of what people can do? We obviously want people to know how they can find you, follow their work that you're doing, get involved. So any final admonitions or things you want people to know?

 

Zen Honeycutt

Well, I would love for people to see the movie Common Ground, which has just came out and I think I believe is still showing across the country. I'm featured in that movie as our many farmers and it's just a beautiful movie that explains what's going on in the food supply. Sharing that with your teachers, your school directors, your school food, know, lunch directors, getting involved with your senators and your representatives. We just did a congressional briefing. It's found on glyphosate facts on YouTube and Rumble.

 

If you would share that with your senators and your representatives, that would really help. We're meeting with the FDA this next week and ⁓ we need pressure on our government for policy change. And then we also need all of us to stop buying fast food because ⁓ fast food companies, if they see a 15 % drop, they will have to change their products. They'll have to, they can't continue losing that type of profit level margin.

 

⁓ We would ask you to sign up for our newsletter on momsacrossamerica.org or com moms across America Sign up for your email alert and then when we have this petition out to Panera bread and maybe other companies too We ask you to please sign it or call them, you know, tweet them whatever it is we can do to get their attention to Stop allowing the spraying of glyphosate on their wheat products, which would be a big step in the right direction We and glyphosate and other toxins. We don't want any

 

toxins on the wheat. And that will be a huge step in the right direction of reducing our exposure to glyphosate and to other toxic chemicals. And then also ask them to have their vegetables and fruit be organic, especially in schools. If we switch out organic fruits and vegetables, or switch our fruits and vegetables to organic, according to Charles Benbrook from the Heartland Health Research Alliance, we will eliminate 98 % of our consumption of toxic pesticides, just the fruits and vegetables.

 

That's just the harmful pesticides. It's not glyphosate, right? The glyphosate, have to switch out your wheat and your corn and your soy and all that to be organic. But if we did those two things, we would dramatically transform health in America, at least the development of new chronic diseases. The ones we already have, you've got to go organic. You've got to do detoxing. You've got to have tons of micronutrients and a mostly plant-based diet, right? That's organic.

 

But people are recovering. There's a movie called Food Cure that shows people recovering from stage four cancer through juicing and food. So you can do it. in a matter of days or weeks, you will see a decrease of pesticides in your body and an increase in improved health. And we hope that you'll join Moms Across America. Monday nights, have Moms Connect calls. We hope you'll donate to us. Even $10 a month would make a huge difference in new testing, new products, and getting the word out there.

 

Christian Elliot

Well, Zen, thank you so much for your time today. You are such a gift to this world, to all of the moms who have felt unseen or nervous about their kids' health. And you've given such practical things backed up by such good reasons to move in a better direction. So thank you for your time. I really appreciate it.