E19: Todd Shipman 

Part 2

Nature's Free Healing Modalities: Structured Water, Cold Therapy, Red-Light Therapy, and Ozone

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Todd Shipman

Yeah. Water is one of the most underrated things that we just kind of mindlessly drink and don't think much of it. And I think it's probably one of the most important things. Once you understand it, gets more crazy, crazy. And the more in this is super cliche, but it is so true. The more I learn about the water, the more I learned. know nothing about water. And it's just like.

 

It's unbelievable. Like how mind blowing again with the science to back all of this up. No, it's not theory. It is then it's been sort of studied since the 1700s. It's just not something people talk about. And nowadays there's even deeper research showing all this stuff where like one drop of water can hold more memory than all the computers in the world combined. And that I'll go in, I mean, there's so many tangents we can go down, but that shows an importance of the music you're listening to while you drink water.

 

because the water absorbs those frequencies, you know, and it's like, okay, wow. Do I really want to go this in depth where I can't be listening to the bad news channel while drinking my water, because truly they have shown this and proven that your water absorbs that frequency and information. water, ⁓ again, so the, so Jared Pollack came up with the fourth phase of water and you can call it, plasma, like a more weird gel like, ⁓

 

It's basically they call exclusion zone or easy water. Now they discovered this was, is that the water inside of mitochondria is different than the water through the rest of our blood. As we're drinking it, it's a completely different structure. And they're trying to figure out like, what is it happening? so your mitochondria is doing all this work to now transition it into it. And it's basically, I'm going to very simplify these. There's a lot of caveats and a little things that, you know, make this not so the way.

 

But like structured water is what you'd consider fourth phase of, or, know, the fourth phase of water, easy water exclusion zone. And so if you're able to drink structured water, you're doing all the hard work for your mitochondria. Cause now it's going into your body. You're going to absorb it. So different. You don't need nearly as much water. and I do apologize because there's so much information.

 

that I might just go off on a one other tangent here. This is the preface to you with this, but like, you know, with structured water. So structured water is basically living water. And they have shown that water can have a consciousness. We call it dormant slash dead water. So stuff that comes out of your pipes that's been pressurized and sealed and treated and filtered ⁓ is what they call dormant dead water. Cause it no longer has anything living. The molecules, the structure of the water is just like shattered glass.

 

⁓ but it has a memory and it has, can create new memory so you can restructure it. That's one reason I don't ideally love the word dead water because it can be dormant. It's the same thing. Like it can be dead, but you can bring it back to life and make it living water, revitalized water, energized water, structured water, how you want to call it. Now water coming off of a river is structured because it's getting the movement, the vortex it's running over crystals. It's running over minerals, magnets, and it's being charged with energy.

 

So like that's the cleanest water you can really drink ⁓ is water that's fresh out of the like mountain spring. Now not coming out of a pipe, still like, you know, ⁓ spring water coming out of a pipe isn't as glamorous and ideal as people make it out to be. ⁓ They're told that that's the best route, but it's like the reality is no, because it's going through a pipe, it's been pressurized. So it's losing its life. That doesn't mean you can't re.

 

vitalize it though, but you want to revitalize it. And there's lots of ways to do that. But like with structured water, there's they've shown like the difference of when you have structured water, you technically don't have to filter your water because your cells are now only going to absorb and take in the fluids, not the fluoride, not the chlorine. And as mentally weird as that sounds, uh, they've shown this and it's they, you can do this by structuring. You can go to Mexico.

 

You can go to Bali, Indonesia, and if you structure that water, you're not going to get sick. And that's as clear as day to show you that that would, that water would make your stomach turn because of all this junk in it. But if you structure it, you can consume it and your body doesn't have the same response because it's not absorbing it. And this gets it through and gets it out. ⁓ so that's, that shows you kind of like the power of like, even though I still, I, I reverse osmosis my water because I don't like the taste of the Florida water. ⁓

 

So I'll change that myself, but you can add like pimp ⁓ frequencies to the water. can add memory, add energy to the water as you see fit. Pimp? Pimp. Yeah. pulse electronic. Yeah. Well, it's pulse electronic magnetic frequencies. Pimp is another type of technology of pulsating. P-E-M-F. ⁓

 

Nina Elliot

They want to what frequencies?

 

Todd Shipman

It's another type of biohack technology that's been around for like 50, 60 years where really quick, you can, I used it on my daughter who snapped her arm in half and within less than five days, her arm was a hundred percent healed, ⁓ via X-rays.

 

Nina Elliot

You just like splashed her with the water? What'd do?

 

Todd Shipman

Well, so it's not just water, it's an electric, it's it's a magnetic frequency. So when you guys do combo, I'll show you it. Okay. But it's a pulsating. So the earth, it's like the Schumann residence. If you know about the Schumann residence, which is the pulse of frequency that the earth does. Yeah. So you can, you can magnify that, ⁓ and localize it in a way that, you can use it for your own body's benefit, but you can get, and you can add these frequencies to water. ⁓ you can customize water, however you want. You can add.

 

⁓ you know, again, I have, I have devices where it's got like blue diamonds and, ⁓ organized and shung height. it's magnetizing and adding frequencies to this water as your drink. So when you drink it and like, you're getting those benefits from it, so you can, they've shown this and, ⁓ I mean, there are, there are people who are in depth studying this stuff. And I know a guy personally who has told me, he's like, there are times where I have to leave the lab because I know that water is alive. That water is.

 

playing with me. It's communicating with me by changing things that should never be able to be changed by sitting water. You know, he's like, it has a has a consciousness in many ways, like, that shows you how powerful drinking it. And like, for example, if you have, they're finding ways to do this now, people like the military, literally, the government is, is studying this stuff with water and the way how they send water, because they understand that, when water gets put onto a semi truck, and it's getting honked, and it's the shaking, it

 

it actually deteriorates the water. So they're finding ways that if they, tried to like seal it with metal, and then they found that sealing it made it worse too. And that's one reason they think like ⁓ plants and doors like marijuana grows are not nearly as effective as outdoor because it's sealed and they know they're sealed and the water is not as strong. So ⁓ there are all these things they figure out. Like if you have your, know, ⁓ let's just say you're driving home and you have all the

 

case of water in your trunk and you're playing some music, ⁓ the water takes on that frequency. And again, I can't say this enough. This isn't theory. This isn't like, this probably happens. Like this is stuff that they can actually quantify and see the difference of the frequencies of the water and what it's holding, ⁓ before and after. So water changes every second, just like our heartbeat. So, you know, you want to stay away from EMFs, ⁓ pressurized pipes, all this stuff,

 

deteriorates the water's quality. But if you're drinking structured water, like it's one of the best things you can do for cleansing. And again, you can drink tap water. You don't have to filter your water. A lot of water filtration systems and theory are good, but at the end of the day for the environment, they're not. So if you have a whole house reverse osmosis machine, to give you an example, which a lot of people have, and it sounds like it's a good idea, but long-term sustainability, it's really bad for the earth. Because if you ever seen like a, it's like, ⁓

 

Not so much like with the Berkey, because the Berkey will use most all of it, right? But like a reverse osmosis, get, take a gallon and out of that gallon, you only get maybe three quarters of a gallon back. And then you have this quarter of a gallon and that's just the pure toxic crap. It's the condensed junk that was in that water. And what do you do or what do I do? I just dump it right down in the sink. And then I restart. And what that happens now is that goes through the system and it makes it so the water treatment plant now has to.

 

add more chemicals to neutralize those chemicals. So you're just adding more, they're having to bring more chemicals and stuff in to neutralize it. And it's just getting worse and worse. Same thing with birth control, Xanax, things that are people are dumping down the toilets. Like the water treatment plants now have to counter it with more chemicals. And then you're like, you know, so like the long-term effect of that isn't ideal, but it's, it's there. It's just something to be mindful of. But, um,

 

It's shown that if your water is structured, you do not need to filter your water at all. But that doesn't mean the tastes like I still filter it. Cause I want the taste. I'm not a fan of Florida where we live the Florida tap water. Bearable to me. Yeah. So like when I lived in California, I could do it at places you could do that. And it's tastes totally different, but Florida water is also considered it's it. have the let the least amount of regulation on tap water than any other state. So that.

 

Nina Elliot

Yeah, it's pretty gross.

 

Todd Shipman

On top of that, yeah.

 

Christian Elliot

Did not know. Okay, so if somebody was interested in getting started structuring their water, I guess first learning about this topic of structured water, where would you point them to learn about it? And then what practical ways could they start to structure their own water?

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. So there's different products and different companies and a lot of them make very similar things. ⁓ but like you can get a portable, I have this cause I always have it with me. ⁓ so this is a, this is, it looks really simple, of course, but inside it has all these, which you can't see, but has these balls that are magnets and crystals and Shanghai and it works in a vortex. So you pour the water to the top and it vortexes it spirals while getting magnetized and it falls through here.

 

Christian Elliot

Can you tell us what that's called for somebody who's just listening to the audio?

 

Todd Shipman

Well, this is just a, sorry, I think about that. Thank you. ⁓ This is a portable structuring unit. ⁓ And you can get them from different companies. Like this one is probably the cheaper and the most like long it's called natural action technologies. ⁓ And they make whole house structuring systems. make ⁓ shower structuring systems and like this. So this we take when we go to restaurants or travel and you pour it through the top, it does a free flow service.

 

vortexes it and pours it out and you can taste the difference immediately. If you're drinking wine, this will completely change the taste of your wine. It just shows you. Yeah, yeah, you can because it makes it so the sulfites and the sulfates are not as powerful as a of like a of a hangover. So, but this these are like $250, $300 depending where you get these from, but you don't have there's other brands, but these guys are the ones that do all the.

 

They, I like this company because they give back all their profits to like the American Water Trust Association where they're working on giving indigenous Native Americans ⁓ their regular water back and stuff. So it's just a small thing, but there's plenty of other companies. There's Greenfield Technologies ⁓ that they do it too. But these guys, ⁓ the owner ⁓ worked in the military as a nuclear fissionist or fission engineer and basically learned that a byproduct of this nuclear fission was this type of water.

 

And then he started studying all that and got into all this stuff. And like, he makes like these custom products where it's like, ⁓ if you want, you know, certain Shanghai or certain EMFs on stuff, ⁓ in the water to help you fight it, we can do that.

 

Christian Elliot

So what's the name of that brand you just showed us?

 

Todd Shipman

it's natural actions technology.

 

Christian Elliot

natural actions.

 

Nina Elliot

Okay. So I was going to buy another water filter because I was reading about water and getting all grossed out. And now I'm thinking I need to take that same money. was the water filter. was looking at was just 250. It was like a counter unit because we rent and now I'm thinking I need to take that money and buy one of those instead because the county didn't say anything about structuring. was just a filter.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. So, um, like I have a reverse osmosis by Aqua True. So that's a counter. And then I restructure it because if you, when you filter water, it destructures water. So, um, if you had a whole house water filtration system, and then you ran it through the Berkey or you run it through, um, like my Aqua True, it actually deionizes and destructures the water. So you need to restructure it.

 

Christian Elliot

So are there filters besides the one cup?

 

Todd Shipman

⁓ Yeah,

 

yeah. So this one, of course, is just affordable. We take this to restaurants. We travel a lot. This is a must have for us. But they also make under the sink systems. So all the water that goes underneath your sink ⁓ will be structured. And you can also, you can incorporate a filter for the taste. You just put the filter, and these companies sell a filter, and then the water structuring system after it. So it filters it, and then restructures it, and comes to your ⁓ end.

 

And then it costs about $500 or so.

 

Nina Elliot

And then Todd, so I understand, I'm just breaking this down because I'm understanding this now. My body naturally will restructure the water. From what you said earlier, my cells have to have this water in structured form in order for me to have it absorbable, usable to my cells. So by filtering it, I'm doing the benefit of reducing the toxic load, but then by structuring it, I'm making that water more available to my body. Is that how you would, am I getting it right?

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. And you'll know so different because you probably only have to drink 25 or 10 % of the normal amount of water you drink because your body utilizes it such a different way. You, you urinate way less because it stays in your system. Um, they, they, ways they can quantify like the toxins is they see like cholesterol deposits and people who are drinking non-structured water will have more cholesterol deposit in their cells. And you start drinking structured water. removes all the toxins and cholesterol. So you like naturally will lower any high amounts of cholesterol, but.

 

Um, your body does it at end of the day, but if it's one of those, just like digestion, your body exhorts a lot of energy to digesting. if you can help it in any way, you're going to feel way different. And with water, structuring water is definitely one those things where I think it's like, if there's one major things you do, because our body's legitimately, you know, we're always told like, Oh, we're 70 to 80 % water.

 

The reality is we're over 90 % water because everything about us is water. Our muscles are almost all water. Our cells are almost water. Our blood is all water. Everything is water. Skin is full of it. it's like, so same thing as what you eat matters and what you put in your body matter. Like obviously the water is just as important and it's just an imperative. Like it'd be mindful of what you drink. here's the thing that like, when you start drinking structured water and you need clean water,

 

It's the same thing as if you're eating clean and you go have gluten. So imagine being so sensitive after drinking such clean water that you go to an airport and have a Dasani and the Dasani doesn't make you feel good. Like you're like, ⁓ I shouldn't have drank this water. And it's just reverse osmosis, but it's dead water. And it's almost like nutritionists lists. guess there's no thing about like that. So it's like, you know, the McDonald's of water in a way, like you're, going to know a difference. you've been, when you've been over drinking the structured water, like you'd literally rather.

 

be dehydrated than drink water, you know, that's the point you can get to. So.

 

Nina Elliot

just so not what we've learned. mean, I think that the thing that really stuck out to me when I was learning about this was the idea and you touched on this, that you, just what a priority it is and that you could drink unfiltered water with all the junk in it. But once it's structured, your body would know how to not absorb the junk and eliminate the junk. And it's just looking for that water. It's so happy. Yeah, me that was a big, very cool.

 

Todd Shipman

I mean, the

 

coolest thing is, is you can go to Mexico and drink the water as long as you structure it. It blows people's mind away because that can't happen. And that's another way thinking like, river water. I never knew this, but for like 25 years, I'd go to Yosemite. I live in California every weekend and I would always drink the water out of the river. Always because I'd be, I'd be, you know, wilderness packing. So I didn't have anything and I would drink anything of it. I never once got sick, but I was like, I don't recommend that. I'm not going to tell people, Hey,

 

Nina Elliot

Hahaha

 

Todd Shipman

the water in the Yosemite as it's riving down, but like when you realize like that water is running and it's so different that that's like naturally occurring structured water that I was always drinking. And that's why I never got sick nor did really anyone else. But like if you think about it, like why would you drink water out of a national park? Like there's dangers and all this stuff. It's like, well, I don't recommend it, but I've never been sick. And now I'm realizing all of why that works, you know, is like your body just...

 

move along, get out of my way. I don't need you. just taking the structured water coming in the energetic revitalized water, however you want to call it, easy water, fourth phase of water.

 

Christian Elliot

So I don't know if you've seen the documentary terrain, but toward the end of that film, they have a woman telling her story. She was in a traumatic car accident and one of those you hardly survive. And fast forward 20 years later, she's got a lot of chronic pain and somebody recommends to her to go get some natural water coming out of the earth, the most alkaline she can find. And she starts detoxing. She starts getting all these sores on her one side of her face and down her arm.

 

and her body's basically started pushing out glass through her skin, just from changing her water, which blew my mind. But to your point about how powerful it is, do you have any stories or anybody you know, or any examples of something significant health changes people have experienced just with changing their water?

 

Todd Shipman

or structure specifically. Yeah. So that's a huge aspect that you need to be mindful of is like the detox abilities, because you're going to make your body work so much efficiently. And like we said before that your body is very adaptable and it wants to heal itself. It wants to fix itself and remove. It's got these detox pathways that were, you know, the majority of the human race they work wonderful for. And then there's some people where they're kind of clogged and blocked, challenged, but like we see that for sure with like, ⁓

 

⁓ switching over to structured water and you might have acne for a few days because your body is flushing out things. So like the glass, I don't know even personally, but it doesn't, it all surprised me because you're absorbing things. People underestimate our skin and when you're absorbing, know, anything gets in your skin, it gets absorbed and goes to your liver, goes to your blood and everything. So it's pushing everything out. Like it, that definitely would not surprise me. It would be crazy and cool to see that. But like the things I've seen people

 

you know, detox in our bodies, nothing really surprises me, but it makes sense. it will definitely, if you, if you definitely have some health challenges, um, definitely like again, the height, your hydration efficiency is on a whole nother game level. When you start drinking structured water and you'll see that, like I have to remember to drink and I usually was drinking like a half a gallon to a gallon a day. And I went over to structured water. I'm like, wow, I've had like a leader today and that's it. And I'm like, my everything is very,

 

hydrated, I do not need anything else. So it's a huge difference. And you just want to be mindful of that for sure. Like, and again, I think these are the little things with someone with like Lyme, autoimmune mold. These can be really beneficial because it makes your body have one less stressor that it can take care of. Your mitochondria, which is your, you know, literally the base of what we are energetic wise. The less work it has to do, the better you're going to feel and the better you can protect itself.

 

Christian Elliot

One more water question, then we'll switch to our last topic. how important would you say this for people to get something to structure their water in their shower?

 

Todd Shipman

So I don't think it's like I have one. And I also have a, cause we're an apartment. So when I moved to a house, I'll have a different water setup. But what I, the best thing I can do here is I have a water filter over my shower, which I had way before I ever got a structuring unit and that removes the chlorine and everything. And that was a big difference, but then structuring it.

 

is the same thing where like this, things that you will be able to tell the quantify it is you'll never have like, um, mold or any of that, um, residue. don't know what you call that. I'm blanking out right now, but you know, like, if you have like a glass thing, you have that like white. Yeah. Yeah.

 

Christian Elliot

Come on in.

 

Nina Elliot

Come

 

here.

 

So much mold in our shower. I've never had a shower girl mold so efficiently than since we moved to Florida. So you're saying that you don't get mold in your shower. That's remarkable.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. Wow. That's the way to quantify it. Like, I don't know much of the difference of like showering or bathing in structured water, but the reality is, is you do absorb anything to your skin. You know, it's just like our stomach. have to view, you had to really treat our skin like a stomach. goes from your skin, gets absorbed, again, goes to your liver. Everything is the same. like that's why it is important. If you're showering or bathing and stuff, like there's no chlorine or fluoride or bromine, all this stuff that's in water, you don't want it. But, ⁓

 

I can tell the difference for sure with like the lack of the scaling that happens in the mold and stuff in the bath. That's how you'll notice the difference for sure. But if you get a whole home structuring system, the whole home structuring systems usually cost like anywhere from 1400 to $2,000. And that does everything your old house is now structured. So you can take a bath and stuff.

 

Nina Elliot

It feels more affordable than getting a whole home ⁓ filter filtration unit. Those are those are quite.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. ⁓

 

Christian Elliot

You'd hook up both together, I imagine. You'd filter it and then send it through the structure. Is that?

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. Well, so what you could do is so if you had a whole home reverse osmosis system or a whole home filtration system, you would let it filter and do all that. And then right after that, you'd have the structuring unit and the structuring unit's pretty big. Like it goes on the pipes, but it's a good like two, three feet long. And it basically vortex through it. And again, it's magic. You never have to replace it. You don't have to do any form of maintenance to it. is great. Um, but if you wanted to, like, if that's not a system you already have, what I would do is I would put.

 

like a whole home structure, a structuring system for the house. And then like have one of those release, ⁓ whichever there's tons of options, but like filtration system, just for your sink water. So if you want to drink the sink water, ⁓ that's what I would do. Everything else.

 

Nina Elliot

And just, yeah, it just the structure for the house. Yeah, that makes sense.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah, I

 

that would be, and then as far as cost-wise, that's the most effective as well as health-wise. I think that's your best choice.

 

Christian Elliot

Right on. Well, another thing people like to do with water is, and as you mentioned it earlier, is plunge into it when it's really cold. And admittedly, that is not my favorite thing. am I am slowly becoming a little bit more tolerable or tolerant of freaking cold water. But tell us a little bit about just the benefits of cold water or cold therapy. And then we can juxtapose that with with light and heat as a balance to all the cold. So what what can you tell us about cold therapy?

 

Todd Shipman

So cold therapy, it's also really important to preface with it is that it's a very, it's a healthy stressor. So if you are sick, if you are not having like, if your body's not optimal, it's really not for you. And that, you know, it's unfortunate, but truth, like it's not going to benefit you at all. And it's already an extreme discomfort thing. So if you're not getting the real benefits, yeah, you don't want to be doing it anyway. So I'm saving you the discomfort, but so cold therapy.

 

is done in multiple different ways. can do it like I always like there's levels to it literally. Like if you're just entering it, you can do like a cold face plunge, just take an ice bowl and put your face in there. It's very effective. And you want to keep it in for a total of 90 seconds. You can't hold your breath for 90 seconds, usually with the cold water. So you just kind of pull out, breathe, come in, but you're, you're going, I'll go in a second into the benefits of it, but I want to talk about the modalities. So people know there's different levels. Uh, when you do your face,

 

you're basically tricking your vagal nerve that it's fully impunged. So you're going to get the benefits. ⁓ second to that is a shower and honestly, to me, the showers are the hardest because it's so cold, but only part of your body. And then it's trickling down. So it's like a teaser. ⁓ so, but doing like, can do, you can start with like shower warm, ⁓ and then start with maybe the first 15, last 15 seconds of your shower being cold. And then that's to do 30 seconds, then a minute, the 90 seconds.

 

always end on cold, but wash yourself with warm water. That's fine. And then you can do an ice tank. And that's what we have here at our house. You can do cold bodies of water. And then you can also do cryotherapy, which is usually 180 degrees below zero for like three or four minutes. And that's actually, even though I just told you it's 180 degrees below zero, it's easier than an ice tank because water, you're surrounded by water and ice tank.

 

And water is one the most conductive things there is. So it's going to suck all the heat out of you instantly. When you're in 180 degrees below zero temperatures, like a cryotherapy chamber, it's air. So there's space between you still. So it's actually easier to do a cryo chamber than it is an ice bath. It's not as effective, but there's many reasons why you want to do a cryo chamber. If you have any mobility issues, ⁓ you're not having to grieve down into an ice tank, an ice bath.

 

kind of make you useless for 20 minutes after because everything's so stiff and solid ⁓ cryotherapy chamber you can go to during a lunch break and go in and out and get the benefits. It's really popular for like MMA fighters and stuff where they're doing training when they're training for fights and they're working out like six times a day, they'll go do cryo in between so that they're just as effective and energizing. So those are the different ways to do it. My preferred way is an ice bath. ⁓ but it's also probably the most extreme and uncomfortable, because an ice bath

 

You can't move either. You're kind of stuck. Um, so like in in a lake or something, I used to go into Lake Tahoe all the time and that's about 40 degrees. Like at least I can swim and move around and keep the blood flowing. I'd swim to, uh, Alcatraz a lot too. Every Sunday I used to swim to Alcatraz when I live in San Francisco. Um, and that's, you know, it just shows, cause there's like ways of breath. There's ways to like benefit through like Wim Hof breathing. Um, and breathing is really important when you do cold therapy, cause you know, the breath is the remote to the brain.

 

So exactly how you breathe tells your body how to respond to everything in life. And when you go into ice tank, you're going to be like, know, cussing and whatever you're doing. And that's telling your body panic, panic, panic, panic, panic, as opposed to like trying to inhale with a long exhale to like trick your brain into everything being fine. So the benefits of cold therapy are also very far and wide. ⁓ to simplify it really is for people with like,

 

Uh, inflammation, it's incredible for inflammation. Um, if you're going to work out though, like a lot of people do ice tanks after a workout, you want to wait 60 minutes from doing it because you do want some healthy inflammation when you're building muscle, right? So you want that healthy inflammation initially. Uh, and they have found through research that 60 minutes is enough after that, you can go remove the inflammation. Um, cold therapy is not good for injuries either. People, you know, always thought to put ice.

 

on something that's injured. But reality is, is when you put ice on something, pushes the blood away and it keeps the inflammation away at what you want. Blood is a source of all healing. have blood has to heal everything. So if you're not letting blood go to where the injury is, it's not good. So those are the, one of the reasons like you don't want to do any of this, you know, you'd rather just let the blood get there and do its job. ⁓ but like what the really cool research comes in is like the anti-inflammatory effects, but they're showing like with glutathione.

 

uh, percentage, it's like in natural production of gl

 

Christian Elliot

who doesn't know what glutathione is. ⁓

 

Todd Shipman

Sorry. So glutathione is basically it's, it's dubbed as like the master antioxidant of our body. So we naturally create it. You can get it also in IVs and supplements. If you do a supplements, it needs to be liposomal. It has to be liposomal. Otherwise you're just kind of wasting money for the most part. You're only going to absorb like 5 % of what you're buying. ⁓ so you're getting naturally occurring with a thion. So good immune system building also just kind of detoxing, pushing things out of you. there's certain enzymes that increase to

 

completely suppress all rheumatoid arthritis and regular arthritis symptoms from doing cold therapy. Just, this is just within four days straight of doing it. ⁓ of course you have your endorphin rush, your adrenaline, your dopamine, all this stuff gets naturally raised from doing ice tank like afterwards. Now in the moment it's crazy and you really, your body is going to tell you you're going to die and you will not die. But if you ever want to work on your mental strength, go do an ice tank.

 

because nothing will tell you differently that you're not going to die in those moments. you're, and there's a lot that goes on when you're in an ice tank that are also very grounding because when you're in that ice tank, you can't think about yesterday's fight. You can't think about tomorrow's bills. Like you are in that moment and nothing else can come. Nothing else can come out of your brain or in your brain. And you're just like, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And this is where the healthy, healthy stressors come in.

 

Because it's also very similar to like, you do a ketogenic diet where people are like, I could think straight and I could do all this. And it's like, well, that's good to a point, but it's also your body's last ditch efforts to survive. And that's why out of nowhere, you get this crazy mental clarity because your body's thinking you're going to die. So it needs to be like, what last little thing can I grab onto to survive? Whether that, you know, you get this crazy boost of energy because your body is basically saying, I need to get out of this water to survive. So I'm going to give you all this in the reserve tank to get out of here.

 

So again, it feels good, but it's also like I said, it's a very healthy stressor because your body's responses are basically of survival, which is the exact same thing with the ketogenic diet when people are like, oh, I just feel amazing. It's like, well, cause your body thinks it's in a famine. So it's wanting you to have this last the jeopard to go hunt animal or whatever, you know, like same thing, but so you need to be mindful of that. But like you have the endorphins, your it's a major mood booster. Right. And once you're out of it, you're like, man, I'm ready to go back in. You forget, you forget.

 

Nina Elliot

You

 

Todd, you just validated. I remember we did a Tough Mudder a long time ago. It's the only time I've ever jumped in a tank of ice. I never even heard about it. This is kind of before we were aware of the Wim Hof method and all these things. Now I feel like it's a little more mainstream. People talk about it. We see it more. And they filled a dumpster full of ice. It one of the obstacles. There were like 20 obstacles. And when I was done with that race, I felt dramatic when I was...

 

retelling the story of our racing. literally thought I was going to die. I was in that tank. We had to go under this. ⁓ was ice. We had to go under this plywood thing to get out of it. pushed off to the side. So because some people jumped into it. So by time we got to the other side, you could not only, not only was your body shutting down, but you felt like you were swimming through sand. It was ice cubes and someone jumped in after me and pushed me out. And I remember thinking that was the, that is

 

That was the most terrified I've ever been in my entire life. And now I want to try it again and like, I know what's going on. And I feel like I had more clarity if I were to do it again with what I know what's happening in my body and I'd be able to push through, but I was terrified. ⁓ So thanks for validating that. I thought I was being dramatic. It's like.

 

Todd Shipman

No, the hardest part about that. remember cause I mean, I have so much experience with cold therapy stuff and I remember doing a tough mudder and I found it was almost impossible when you're going under the barrels or whatever it was. So you have to go under. And I remember I wasn't able to take a deep enough breath to hold in to go under. Like it was hard for me to go and try like this at the same time. You're like,

 

Nina Elliot

For like a war, a plane.

 

Yeah, because you got in the water first.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. Yeah. So it was hard for me to go back under and hold my breath. So it was like, woof. Yeah.

 

Nina Elliot

Okay, well, thank you. I feel better now. was like, I thought I was going to die. They're like, you know, just being dramatic. No, but no, it's really intriguing. I think that it's something that we've talked about. We want to start doing, cause I know, I know of people who have just experienced tremendous benefit from, cold plunging. So, so interesting.

 

Christian Elliot

Cool. That was a great, I like how you had a gentle on ramp from the face to just slowly acclimating yourself to it, ending your shower.

 

Todd Shipman

And they're all beneficial. You're not selling yourself short really with any of those. It's just that you can, you can build up to different things, but like doing a face plunge with an ice bowl is just as, because again, it hits your vagal nerve. it's thinks your whole body is, is underwater. So it still does all the things it needs to do, but it's also intense. It's like, you'll get a real, you'll know what a real brain freeze feels like, you know.

 

Nina Elliot

You just added to Christian's beauty regimen at night. He's gonna be like, here's my mask, here's my nose tape, here's my mouth, my mouth tape, and now I'm gonna go dunk my face in cold water.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah.

 

So do it before you do like red light because it gets all the blood flow to your skin. So it produces like collagen production. So you have like, you know, way more, um, better skin that way too. And then red light. So cold therapy also, which maybe might be what we go into next, but cold therapy actually activates your body to receive wavelengths better. So like doing cold therapy and then going to get like a red light panel or the sun on you will actually, you'll absorb things better.

 

if you do the cold therapy first. Wow. So face plunge and then a red face or red light or something.

 

Nina Elliot

Okay, that'll be my bedtime routine then, yes.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's a great transition to that kind of the last thing I wanted to ask you about was just that heat therapy or red light or sunshine. And there's there's several different things wrapped into that. But imagine as there are similar benefits to cold therapy, are there benefits to heat tolerance or to different wavelengths of light that we can expose ourselves to?

 

Todd Shipman

So red light therapy is actually one of the most researched technologies in existence. There's like 30 or 40,000 studies done on red light therapy. And whenever I mentioned before, we're like 20 years behind the rest of the world. Like Japan uses red light therapy, which I'll go into in a second, but red light therapy is an actual medical treatment for breast cancer. And they've been doing that since the eighties in Japan. And here it's like, it's a no-no.

 

You know, a red light therapy, I'll go into this because it goes into again, kind of like what they're a cold therapy. There's different modalities. Like at the ultimate, there's nothing more intense and there's nothing better for us than the sun. Now you get a red light panel, a red light therapy panel. It's basically just localizing very specific wavelengths that are red. So you have the red light, you have near infrared and far infrared. And the far infrared are the ones you don't see, like you can't see that. Our eyes can't see it.

 

But it's really cool because you could take your cell phone and put it over a far infrared light and you can see it. It's really cool. So it doesn't exist in our eyes, but put your cell phone camera over it and then you can see it. Um, so that's far infrared wavelengths on a red light therapy. So if you were getting like a red light therapy panel and some of the bulbs look like they're, they're broke. They're not, they're just, those are the far infrared wavelengths, which is again, so cool that we can't see it, but our camera phone catches it. and so at the end of the day, like again, the ultimate source.

 

of light is the sun. Nothing comes close to the intensity of it. Nothing comes close to the full spectrum. And the sun all day has full spectrum light because you you've got the far infrared, you have blue light, you have yellow, and it's kind of like the rainbow. So you can see all the colors from blue, green, yellow, red, orange. I feel like I'm missing a few, but anyways, like those are are wavelengths that's from the sun.

 

And in the morning, when you have sunrise, you're going to see the orange, the yellow and the red, because that's when the far infrared and the infrared are dominant. And the same happens at night. It's the same wavelengths and those wavelengths. So again, you could use a red light therapy panel for certain things, red light and friend Farfarn wavelengths are amazing for injuries. They're amazing for scar tissue, for scars, your eyes. It's basically if you, way I can describe it, it's like nutrients.

 

for your skin and blood. ⁓ So it's really good for any kind of mitochondria gets fed off of these light. activates. So infrared light, far infrared, they activate your mitochondria and give them energy. ⁓ You can get this naturally by being outside for 30 minutes before 10 a.m. And then after about 5 p.m., you get this natural red light therapy. But if you've got specific problems, you can always buy a red light panel and just localize that.

 

so in 2016, the Nobel prize on biology was one on circadian rhythm. And it's some of the most fascinating information that just got swept under the, under the rug. And it's so unfortunate because this research proved that our bodies are 100 % in alignment circadian with the sun and where it is all day. So our hormones are 100 % in relation to where the sun is. And when you have someone who spends

 

80, 90 % of their day inside. Cause we work in an office or we have false light. We're not getting that. So our body has our body is literally, it's like a crap shoot on what hormones to release. doesn't know. So watching sunrise in the morning, just to give you a little quick example, now tells your body and the whole effect of a dominoes is okay. 12 hours from now is when you're going to release melatonin.

 

And it starts in sunrise. You have to be out there. And that's why if you can, you should be outside every few hours for 15, 20 minutes. Cause the sun waves come through our eyes and they communicate with the rest of our hormones through what's absorbed. And that's why sun's a sunscreen and go into, but like sunglasses are also not ideal because you're blocking the UV and your body thinks it's inside. So it doesn't help. Like we have naturally occurring things that help us stop getting sunburns. So when you're wearing sunglasses,

 

you're tricking your body and thinking you're inside and it doesn't know that needs to be producing all these things to help you not get a sunburn.

 

Nina Elliot

Yeah, I've been trying not to wear my sunglasses, but now I'm getting a wrinkle, Todd.

 

Christian Elliot

Quinting it.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. actually it's easier said than done, especially in Florida, because there are some caveats, the sunglasses, probably when you're driving, but also like I have found, because I haven't worn sunglasses in 10 years after learning all this information about the sun, like specifically, but there are times like for us, because where we live, the beach is quartz, right? So that's why we have that white sand is cause of quartz and it reflects off and it will hurt your eyes.

 

Nina Elliot

So bright.

 

Todd Shipman

So like

 

at the beach, if we're at the beach, I will wear sunglasses because it will hurt you. hurts. does. I mean, you'll get a head against them. So it's not good. And on the water, because it reflects, you're in a snowy area, you want to wear sunglasses, but it doesn't mean you have to go all day without wearing them, but you need to be mindful that when you're wearing sunglasses that are UV, you know, protecting you, you're tricking your body, right? And you're not getting this stuff.

 

So we also absorb it through our skin, but our eyes are the most powerful. Like that's where we get most of our information. We also have photoreceptors on our skin that take in the same information. ⁓ But so watching sunrise is probably, there's a lot of research done like the Northwestern University, or Northwestern University did a research showing that like the person, ⁓ control group that just watched sunrise had like, ⁓ it was an 80 % decrease in overall BMI, just from watching sunlight because it-

 

because it keeps your hormones in line and you want to do this all day. You want to go outside because if we're inside all day, you have your light, which I call artificial light. ⁓ your, your room, your door, everything up there is basically it's telling your body. Those are the same wavelengths. So your kitchen light and everything is the same wavelengths, your cell phone, your cell phone light, you know, that you have, this is the same wavelength as 10 AM to 2 PM. So

 

If you're outside, if you're inside all day, your body just thinks it's 10 AM to 2 PM all day. And it's going to stay at that point with hormones. Um, and let's say you get into later at night and your body might start to start releasing melatonin, but you look at your phone to check an email. Your body sees this and goes, Oh crap. It's 10 AM. It's not 10 o'clock at night. I need to stop this melatonin and I need to start releasing cortisol to wake up. And even though you may go to bed.

 

Your body's not asleep. Your eyes are closed. Your brain is there, but now your body is like ready for nothing. It thinks it's ready. It doesn't know what it's ready for, but now it's triggered and you're not going to get a deep sleep. So it's important to understand, like you'd want to minimize your light from inside and you like in a perfect world. This is definitely not manageable. It's what we do here though, is before sunrise, we don't have any lights on in the house. we do have red bulbs set up in the kitchen that can turn on and off. And then at night you turn on a red light panels after sunset.

 

⁓ And that will give you way better sleep. You know, there's ⁓ red filters. Night shift doesn't do anything on your iPhones. Night shift does absolutely not even, not even like a 10 % benefit. It's nothing because behind it is still these white LEDs that are profusely shooting out. But what you can do, and you can go onto YouTube and see this, and I'm sorry I'm doing this on my phone here, but like this is an iPhone and I can click this one, two, three, and make it solid red. Now you can do that. You can go onto YouTube and you can

 

find a video and just type in red filter night shift or red filter screen iPhone. takes you two minutes to do that. And then it's like that and I can click one, two, three and go back. So, and at night it's really easy to see that it's not like during the day, it's harder to see, but at night you can do it. problem.

 

Nina Elliot

Wow.

 

Christian Elliot

need.

 

That's amazing. Okay, so talk to us about sun and the idea that that's our enemy and that we need to be stay away from that. I've heard different people talk about skin cancer and someone actually pointed out to me that a lot most of time when people get skin cancer, they're actually getting it in places where they're not exposed to the sun. And so there's lot of misconceptions about sun being bad for us or and then a lot of people use sunscreen to fight that. So tell us a little bit about just

 

how to use it or how to benefit from it as much as possible to train yourself to be good at it.

 

Nina Elliot

Yeah, and I don't use sunscreen. I'm very much against it, but I also want to be smart about it because we'll go to the beach all day. And I've got, you know, kids that want to make sure that they're protected enough. I know burning is not good. So I'd love to hear your take on how to be smart in the sun.

 

Todd Shipman

So we'll start with the sunscreen at first. like, so there are, there's a few sunscreens that are good. They need to be so good that you can eat them. Like it needs to be that clean. There's like, there's like a third rock from the, think it's called third rock from the sun or third rock. Sunscreen is really good. Creatrix solutions makes a sunscreen that's like Talo based with zinc. And it's really good. They're so clean that you can eat them. So like there is that point because not everyone can just jump out and.

 

be in the sun all day and not get it. But we can talk about how to work up to the point where you never need it you won't burn either. ⁓ But so sunscreen, most of sunscreens, ⁓ obviously their job is to block UVA and UVB ⁓ wavelengths. And that is damaging our own body because now we're not producing our own vitamin D. So ⁓ we do not quote unquote absorb vitamin D from the sun. That's not how it works.

 

but the UVA and the UVB wavelengths that come from like 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. are the, are one of the most dominant, so like the UV index. That gets absorbed by our skin and it triggers a whole communication with cholesterol to create hormone, vitamin D. So if you are doing anything to block this UVA and UVB to our skin, it's stopping the production of vitamin D from our body.

 

Um, and if you're on a low cholesterol diet or taking cholesterol, suppressant medication, you're going to have low vitamin D levels. It's just the way it works because you need cholesterol. There's a whole book on that. I think it's called the trillion dollar lie or whatever, where they tell you cholesterol is bad for you, you know, and really we need it for energy. It's just like that everything you need to have a balance, but doctors are so set on just suppressing it down to lowest number possible. And that's why we're not having vitamin D levels.

 

our immune systems are little chromier and everything that goes along with low cholesterol, like dangerously low cholesterol. So that's why I stay away from sunscreen. Now in a perfect world, you know, you could just do that, but you have to build a callus. But here is a trick to, and this is where the difference, because most people get burned because you only spend, if you're outside, you're only outside mid day. The sun gives us everything we need for wavelengths to be outside all day. But we're only doing it like that little.

 

you know, the little chunk usually, you know, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. or whatever, when the UV is the most prominent and that is also carcinogenic in a way and can burn. ⁓ But this is this is the secret sauce of that they found in the research that happens is if you can get enough sunrise light, so morning light, we have the infrared, the far infrared and this regular mid red light ⁓ that your body absorbs and it will.

 

infrared and foreign for it actually metabolize the overflow of UV light that you get in a day. So you won't burn. And if you do burn

 

Nina Elliot

If you get the morning sun, you're getting the UV rays that are doing what?

 

Todd Shipman

Mm-hmm.

 

So in the morning you get infrared and far infrared. That's the red and the orange and the yellow and your body absorbs those. So that midday when you get too much UV, which you normally would burn from the infrared and far infrared actually metabolize the UV so that you don't burn. So it balances. So the problem is, is most no one gets morning light, you know, like they're doing stuff and then they're out midday. So you're out at the beach all midday and that's all you're getting is the damaging light.

 

But if you make it full spectrum, it's healing. You're only getting a small portion. That's fascinating. And it's the same thing as if you burn midday, spend the afternoon outside, get more sun because the mid, because evening light is also infrared. Morning light and evening light are very similar, which is very small little things. One tells you to wake up and they're telling you to go to bed. That's why if you're camping and you have a fire or if you're out of the beach and a fire, it actually puts you to sleep because those are wavelengths, the red,

 

and yellow, tell your body, okay, it's time to go to bed. Let's release lithium. Let's release all these things to get you to sleep. ⁓ So it's the same thing where if you get a burn, you just want to go spend more time in the afternoon outside in the sun. If that's not manageable, that's why you want to use a red light therapy panel or light therapy panel directly on your sunburn will reverse your sunburn. just, it's just the way it works. It's not one of those. Sometimes it works. It'll always work. If you get a sunburn, use a red light panel, wherever that burn is.

 

and it will reverse it. Also like an ice cold shower and hydrate. So if you get a burn, drink a lot of water and or do an ice thing to cool it off. The burn really is the blood flow going to what needs healing. You know, that's why you're red. It's all the blood going to it and then it gets dehydrated. So those are ways to naturally stop some burns. like, so for example, I mean, I'm, Scandinavian.

 

Nina Elliot

You're definitely a white kid.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. So like, but I haven't, I don't really burn anymore because I, you build a callous. like I started in March here and I'll spend more time outside, become mindful of midday, get a little callous. And then during the summer, I don't have to worry because we, there's like a few things like we wake up so early. like we understand the importance of sunrise and we live in the most beautiful places for sunrise, right? At Inlet beach, we go and we can watch sunrise out there and walk and

 

crab hunt and make it, you know, and my wife does yoga out there and enjoy it. So like, it's, it's part of our, it can be part of our daily protocol.

 

Nina Elliot

I love that. I had no idea about the sunrise and sunset metabolizing.

 

Christian Elliot

Too much sun during the day.

 

Nina Elliot

much better

 

in the day. It's so cool.

 

Todd Shipman

So basically

 

to simplify that is to not get a burn, make sure you get morning light and evening light. The sun in its full spectrum is healing. It's just that we're getting very, most people are getting very condensed, concentrated versions that are not good just by themselves.

 

Nina Elliot

Right. Very cool. And that you can also produce a tolerance. I've noticed that that we don't burn as much as we used to now that we've been in Florida for a while. We love the sun. So. Yeah.

 

Todd Shipman

So a callous, that's what I call a sun callous. you create, you, create a sun callous so that you don't And that's important to know. And I said, I'm, Scandinavian. I'm, I'm a fake redhead. The rest of my entire family is redheaded. I'm more like Auburn, but like, you know, all the kids and everything else are redhead. And, and yeah, so I'm not really, I don't burn and that, that says a lot considering my pale pasty white skin and can get a little bit of a tan.

 

Christian Elliot

That's awesome, Todd. You are a wealth of information. It has been so fun picking your brain on so many topics. So as we kind of wrap up, help me ⁓ help other people develop an intuition because we've covered so many different things someone could do for their health. And so what are some of the best ways that you help people have all the things they could pick or places to start? can feel overwhelming. There's so many things I could do, so many expenses and I could incur. How do I start to develop

 

an idea of where to start and what would be best for me and what ways do you guide people? And we can rank that by the person and their health, but also just by expense of the different things that they could try. Help me know some of the free and expensive things we can do. And also with a, if you can afford it, this would be a really important step to take.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah, I think really just becoming more present with yourself too. Like if you, because most of us were always racing thoughts and we're really mindless to what's all going around us. And you can feel how you're, when you can become intuitive to how your body's responding to things, it's much easier to see, but like, you know, ⁓ it's one thing I do and I love to do is my passion is, as, as, as educating people. like on my Instagram, the biohacker Todd, people can reach out to me on there and ask any questions about that stuff, because there are so many different,

 

Everyone has a different personal journey. And I hate to even say that, but it's so true for what people need because of what their goals are, what their lifestyle is, all that needs to be shifted. like changing your diet, being outside more will make you way more like the cleaner your body is in so many different ways. That's thoughts that's in actions. That's in what you take in, what you put out verbally, everything like your body becomes way more in tune and it be more responsive to things. like.

 

watching sunrise, assure you, that's one thing I like is I like to tell things like that. I don't have to say, try sunrise for 90 days and see how you feel. Like you need to try sunrise one day and you're gonna know how you feel. Like, and that's a great thing. It's almost an instant gratification, which is somewhat hard to find in this health and wellness world. They're like, oh, take this pill, come back in six months and see how it worked. You it's like, you're gonna see the difference in your anxiety. If you do ice tanks, you're gonna see the difference in all this stuff. But like changing your diet, drinking, changing like,

 

the water you drink and being outside more, it's gonna like your anxiety or depression are gonna be like almost non-existent. Like that's the other end. There's more research about depression and how it's something like 800 % more beneficial sunlight than to take in the anti-anxiety and anti-depression pill. There's a research actually showed that is natural sunlight is 800 % more

 

⁓ Yeah. So it's like, yeah, exactly. So it's like things that you'll find instantly. And that's all I'd say, like where you want to figure it out is find out what your life, like, find out your goals are and where you're at and what you want to change.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, so it's like.

 

Okay, well, somebody's had a chronic health condition and they have tried so many things to get well, and they've maybe just kind of, they're hitting their head against the wall. Like what else have I, like help me help them when they're kind of at their wits end. And I don't know what else to do. I've been to so many doctors and tried so many protocols and ⁓ what's, is there a process that you kind of take someone through to assess really of all the tools in your toolkit? Here's the one I think I'd start with.

 

beyond just the free simple stuff that we've already mentioned.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. ⁓ that's kind of a hard way to like answer it. Cause I mean, one thing of course is doctors will never tell you these natural remedies. Like, you know, they're just not part of it. And I was in that world. I was pre-med and I got all the, the textbooks showing me that there was no natural fixing to anything. was all pills and pills. So if you're going to doctors, they're definitely not going to have you, you know, doing this or trying that, but it, again, I think like anything, the two healthiest things that you can change, you'll see is your water consumption.

 

and you're watching sunrise. Like sunrise is probably the healthiest thing you can do to yourself all day. And now on the other end with this research they did, they found that the most unhealthiest thing you can do, and this is really much easier said than done, but the most unhealthiest thing you can do to your body is eat after sunset. take that out of your protocol. Eat dinner before sunset and see how you sleep.

 

Like, and then you'll find right away how your body responds. It'll be one night. You won't need to do this for a week. Like just one night eat before sunset. That's not always not all this stuff is manageable. I understand that, but like, that's like a perfect world. Don't eat after sunset and you'll feel it. You'll sleep. You'll have some of the best sleep, know, ⁓ manage your artificial light exposure, all that. You'll have the best sleep ever. And this takes one time. So it's kind of hard to say like the things to do because everyone's so different, but like, if I was to give a blanket thing, I would say sunrise.

 

watching sunrise will change your life. Awesome. And it'll fix a lot of things. It fixes a lot of inflammation. A lot of things come from hormone imbalances and a lot of things come from dehydration. So if you can fix those two things and however that looks like, it'll completely change your life.

 

Nina Elliot

That's all.

 

Great. Well, I think what was so inspiring about this is that it's so doable. Like I'm already thinking I'm going to do sunrise in May and I want to get out there every morning on the sunrise and just see. Like I do want to try it for 30 days. I want this to be a habit.

 

Todd Shipman

You'll

 

know right away. You'll know right away. You'll be like, slept amazing that night too, like from sunrise. Sunrise will give you better sleep at night. ⁓ that far ahead it's thinking, you

 

Nina Elliot

Cancel that gym membership and hit instead hit outside and go for that walk and watch that sunshine.

 

Christian Elliot

Right on. Exactly. Good. So you mentioned your ⁓ Instagram handle. Is there anything else you people would if somebody wants to reach out to you or follow you or anything else you would want them to know to get in touch with you?

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah. Instagram is the best route again. It's biohacker Todd T O D D our website, my wife and I have is sun Piper wellness and that's sun like S U N and then Piper P I P E R ⁓ wellness.com. And you go on there and see all the stuff that we do. And again, my passion is helping educating people. Like that's what I want to do. So if you have questions, no question is too silly and no, like really it's not. And I, I thrive on

 

giving this information to people so they can understand it and utilize it and benefit from it.

 

Christian Elliot

Well, Todd, thank you so much for your time today. I know people have no shortage of wonderful takeaways from our time together. So you are so much appreciated and we look forward to talking to you again soon.

 

Todd Shipman

Yeah, thank you so much, guys.

 

Christian Elliot

All right, thanks, Todd. All right. Bye.