E53: Kerri Rivera

Autism is Not Forever - The Blueprint for Healing that Doctors Don't Know

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Christian Elliot

All right. Hello everyone. Welcome to today's show. It is my delight to introduce you to Kerri Rivera. So let me tell you some fun things about this lovely lady. She is a pioneer in the use of chlorine dioxide as a treatment to reverse the symptoms known as autism. She was the founder of the first clinic in Latin America to treat autism. She's helped more than 5,000 children recover from autism and more than a hundred thousand people improve their quality of life.

 

And before the Facebook censorship era kicked into high gear, she had a sport group with about 60,000 followers and more than 10 language. And it got so big. had 60 different moderators. she's also the author of numerous books and she's a homeopath. She hosts a TV show online TV at brighton.tv called champions. So Kerri, that is one impressive resume, but I who you are is even more impressive. And so I, I just can't wait for people to hear your story. So welcome to the show.

 

Kerri Rivera

You're so generous. Thank you for inviting me.

 

Christian Elliot

You're welcome. Okay, so one of the things I like to do on this show is just kind of define our terms and give some people some grounded context. So before we get into your story of your son and his autism, ⁓ get help this kind of understand the world of autism. When did this start to become an epidemic and dial us in a little bit on the history of this problem?

 

Kerri Rivera

Well, autism didn't exist before the 1940s. And the first people that were touched by autism were the son of a forest ranger. And there was a lot of toxicity that they were using at the time to seed forests and things of that nature. So he was exposed to that. And of course, it wasn't the autism of, you know, 2025 that we're seeing right now, which is unbelievably devastating. So anyway, it just kept amplifying and amplifying.

 

And I also believe there's a lot of people like most of us who have children that were affected. I was just looking at photos of my son actually while I was waiting for you. That's my son before autism. He was just a stinky little happy guy. He was just a little happy guy. And then I kept vaccinating him and I started to lose him. Between 12 months and 24 months, I started losing him. And by two and a half, he was nonverbal.

 

So he went from a child, and he was a really sparky, sharp guy. Like compared to his brother, he was the sharpest of the two kids. I mean, of course at the different ages, right? But he was really sharp. the more and more vaccines we get going on and the more toxicity in our food, glyphosate and our air quality, our water quality, the 5G, like there's a lot of things that are playing the role. anyway, so it came to be, I believe,

 

And many of us who have children that are affected by autism and the autism spectrum that it came from vaccines. And it doesn't mean that every child who has the diagnosis of autism is even vaccinated. I do work with a subset of kids in a very, very small amount who've never received a vaccination.

 

Well, there's other things that can happen like my friend, Dr. Roby Mitchell, rest in peace. You he always said like, there's a perfect storm. Like the mother could have hypothyroidism. She could be a little bit older. was cesarean. There's all that medications at the moment they're being born that's pumping to the baby. So there's a lot of things, you know, there's a lot of other little things you can actually kind of hunt and pack that way. But right now, according to the CDC in 2025, it's one in 31 children, including girls with autism. This is.

 

This is devastating. And it's not possible to have a genetic epidemic. So we are having an epidemic and it's not genetic. So, you know, why is RFK Jr. saying, I'll let you know what's happening with autism September.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, we already know.

 

Kerri Rivera

Yeah, I kind of don't have any hope that anything's gonna change. mean, I would love for it to see that it changes because, you know, I work with families every day and their children, you know, they were fine like mine and now they're not fine. And so of course, now autism, if in fact you can express a genetic issue, you could actually reverse it. I don't believe that autism is genetic, but they do say that it's about a 10%. So you will sometimes see the guy, I work with a family out of the UK, they have three children and all three children have autism.

 

There's different levels like the older one. He's higher function the younger one the younger ones a set of twins So you will see that so that we are we need to look at what we are doing to the children Environmentally and that would change everything or look at the Amish, you know, they don't have any autism They don't vaccinate and then when that could be a connection like why don't we do a double-blind and say like, okay You hundred for the first three years get no vaccines you hundred get everything all 72

 

because they're putting into one needle up to eight vaccines at one time. They have no tests on the synergy about it. And of course, Ronald Reagan in 1986 released the vaccine industry and the pharmaceutical industry of any wrongdoing, no matter who gets harmed by their products, is, car companies don't have that, supplement companies don't have that. So ⁓ why do they get that?

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah. Well, there's some companies right now, the pesticide makers in particular, that are pushing for and have gotten in a few states indemnification from any harm from their pesticides. So it's like the playbook of poisonous industries. just will stop making this unless you tell us we can't be sued for harming anyone. And we've got to stop that as a population. So if you're hearing this, speak up.

 

Kerri Rivera

It's devastating. It's really devastating what they're doing to us. then, you know, they should be working for us. You know, these branches of government should be working to keep us safe, but yet they're not. And, you know, we look at people like Lindsey Graham, they're lifers, know, they're just in there making their millions, robbing us blind, selling out our country. And we don't have to go so far as to see what we're doing to the children or, know, what they're talking about too, about the foods. How is it possible that the foods in the United States are more...

 

tainted with coloring and flavoring and and poisonous What do you call it preservatives then other countries, you know, like a Gatorade is not even allowed in some countries because it's so so toxic in the States I you guys have like when I say you guys haven't lived there in 30 years, but you have like so much junk It's unbelievable the amount of junk. It's actually if the dig to find anything decent

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, I think it's something like 80 different chemicals that are banned in other countries are still allowed in our food system here. And we're celebrating when we get one or two of them, like our red food diet's gone. Okay, what about the other ones that we know are poisoning us? So yeah, well, you basically said, I even said in the introduction, one of your books is healing the symptoms known as autism, which implies something. So I think we've kind of covered the answer to this, but autism is a symptom of what, to put it succinctly?

 

Kerri Rivera

⁓ It's a label. It's not even a thing. I mean, it should be called vaccine injury because I don't, I will say that 99.9 % of the children diagnosed with autism are vaccine injured. That's what I see. I can't tell you how many parents I've talked to, tens of thousands, tens of thousands at this point, doing this 22 years, tens of thousands of children have lost their lives to, know, my child F and MMR, like Jenny McCarthy, she's an actress in Hollywood and her son, she wrote a book, Louder Than Words. ⁓

 

know, many years ago and she traveled the coast to coast with Larry King and everything saying, hey, there's this problem, you know, you got to stop it. Cause her son literally had a vaccine and immediately had a seizure and started dying and they brought him back. So that's why she, she knew exactly what happened. He was, you know, a well baby visit and then, you know, her kids, you know, coding he's gone.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, well that's such a common story among moms and they just keep, there's so many thousands or tens of thousands, millions of them and it just gets dismissed as anecdotal. Every other realm we kind of honor a woman's intuition, but in this one we're like, no, that's just, that's something else.

 

Kerri Rivera

Whathappens? You go from this to, don't have a picture so close to me right now of what happened to Patrick maybe a year and a half after that picture. It was zombie, just zombie. The invasion of the body snatchers and they just snapped him out of his body and there he was. I'm like, oh my, you don't know what's happened. It kind of comes on gradually. Jenny had it where it came on very immediately. And then there's other people like between the ages of 12 months and of course between 12 and 24, there's a lot of jabs.

 

And he just you know started to like lose eye contact feel worse cry diarrhea sleepless nights and stuff and then the members like terrible twos are upon you. You know terrible twos That's why I'm so sleep-deprived and then of course, you know, I was really sleep deprived So like I couldn't even yeah, didn't I don't even know how I function I was driving a car which is scary I really hadn't slept in like a year. So it was difficult and you don't know really what's happening at that point because your life has just been thrown into this you don't even know how to

 

Quantified or qualified. It's you know something you've never experienced before and so you're like, oh well, I guess that's how it is and it's not like how it is and of course after time and then when somebody finally I don't very actually really interesting I've had a lot of these kind of god sentences or Serendipitous experiences kind of thing and it's always sort of been like when I needed answers to something that something came into my life So I do pay attention to people that revisit or that come out of nowhere

 

So what happened when my son was diagnosed with autism, he was diagnosed in 2004, 12th of March, 2004. And I used to play tennis a lot, like I played like five, six days a week. And a lady who used to play on a court next to me at about that same time, she used to play with another person. That's what happens, you when you get busy with your life, you you like have a person that you play with and you know. So anyway, she and I used to talk about our dogs, had old dogs and they used to take glucosamine and we'd talk about like our old dog.

 

you know, you know, changeovers or something like that. And he had just been diagnosed the 12th of March, 2004. And somebody had told me there's this guy and he used to do sunrise therapy and he lives over in those buildings over there. So I hunt this guy down. mean, anything for my kid. I hunt this guy down. And so he's like, okay, I can talk to you at this time. I say, okay, I'll come over. Cause right around the corner from where I played tennis. So I went and he lived in kind of a, you know, those buildings that a pool in the middle. And so we met by the pool.

 

And so we were talking and I'm like, please, please, we work with my son. He's like, no, no, I don't want to do that anymore. And I'm doing something else. I'm like, so I came out of that meeting, just super bummed out. And I saw the woman, her name is Susan. I saw Susan driving down this little teeny street in front of that complex. And I saw her, I'm like, I just don't want to see anybody. I was super, super, I mean, haven't stopped crying. And I still want to see anybody. But something came into me and said,

 

life is about smelling the flowers along the road. And so I was like, all right, pull it together, Kara. And so I'm like, hey, Susan. And she's like, oh, hi. So like I approach her car. I'm like, oh, nice car. She's got a new car. She's like, oh, I had a terrible week. And she's a realtor. I had a terrible week and this and that. I'm like, I had a terrible week. I'm like, you know, my, my dog of my dog, that dog of 15, 14 years was put to sleep on the 11th. On the 12th, my son was diagnosed with autism. And on the 13th, my identity was stolen on the internet. And it was like,

 

days later that this happened. And she's like, she puts her car in park, she turns the car off and she says, I have a friend, she lives in Toronto, Canada and she started an early autism center. I'm going to give her your email. And this goes back, you know, we're talking about 2004. So this is like, you know, and there was no text message or anything like that. And we used to live in, I always lived in Mexico until I lived in Germany. And so, I mean, you couldn't make a phone call without it costing like 20 bucks a minute. So she's like, I'll give her your email and I'll have her contact you.

 

The next morning I opened my email and there was this long, long email from Nora. She was one of my, you know, I have so many like earth angels along the way that just came in when I needed it. And she explained to me what happened because you don't know what happened. Like you have this kid and I'm showing you the picture. You have this kid and he's fine. And now he's not fine. He's really not fine. He's drooling. He's crying. He's diarrhea. Like he's physically ill and I don't know what to do because every time I go to the doctor, all they do is offer me, know, antibiotics, more vaccines, you know, that kind of stuff.

 

She explains to me what happens. Autism is caused by vaccines and autism is treatable and curable and avoidable. I'm like, this is great. And she's like, you've got to get this guy for the ABA. He's going to come from New York and you've got to get him. And you got to go to Florida and you got to see this doctor. And well, there's me. I do exactly what she said. I got the guy's wife to come because she's also a PhD in the ABA. She comes, I set up a program. And then I...

 

I head to Florida to see this doctor and that was kind when my biomedical stuff started. I just, know, the thing is too, as I was going along the process, I was learning. So I was learning what worked and what didn't work. So I spent $5,000 with this doctor in Florida and I get, you know, B12 injections and leucovorin patches and I get all this kind of stuff. Supplements, we do labs of hair, urine, blood, stool, send them out. So we do all this stuff. I get home.

 

I start the thing. Patrick had a really good result when I took him off the wheat and dairy. That was huge. somebody like the 13th, because I came home on the 12th of March after the diagnosis and some of the moms of the kids that were going to sleep over with my elder son were there and I was destroyed. And they're like, ⁓ one says, I had this book, it's about a diet for autism and ADHD. And I was like, you lend it to me, so I'll bring it tomorrow. So she brought it over. I motored through it.

 

And then at the end there was this diet of what were the permittable foods. And I was like, God, that was like nothing he didn't eat. He only ate wheat and dairy by that time. Like he had just self-selected really poisonous food for him. He did eat potatoes, white potatoes. So he ate french fries. So I was like, okay, can't McDonald's fries, but we'll make fries at home. So that's what we started doing. like Richard Sachs, he's another person who's interviewed me. He's like, that potato diet that you had him on, it's not a potato diet, but it was gluten-free, casein-free, it was the only thing he ate.

 

So he started eating just potatoes, you we'd fry them in coconut oil and put sea salt on them because everything else was wheat and dairy. Three days later, he started to say words again. And so we were like, wow. And then and so from that point, I saw my son getting better even just by changing the diet. And then, of course, you know, came the the the ABA people. Then, of course, I went to see the,

 

Christian Elliot

What is ABA for people who don't know?

 

Kerri Rivera

Applied behavioral analysis. It's basically ⁓ behavioral therapy is what it is. So it's like put this here and you hug them and high five them. And kind of like what we do with our dogs and our kids and our dolphins. And it's sort of like that. just instead of being a fish for a dolphin or a little piece of beef snack for a dog, it's like high five and hugs and good job and tickles and that kind of stuff. And then they look at you and they're excited about you. So we're trying to bring them back into our world that they left.

 

Christian Elliot

Nice. I like that as a hadn't heard that term or you are defined before. So that's makes sense. We had a season where we, ⁓ had a child that was just, ⁓ I guess high strung, you could say. so part of getting him out of his shell was, was like defining how hard to hit things. Like there's a, hit it like a butterfly. Now hit it like a dinosaur now. And it gave him language and it gave him understanding and just an outlet for this like pent up energy as a boy that he had. And it really did a lot just.

 

by the physical touch and interaction. And we even had a particular massage we did with him and so on. So yeah, I can see where that could be fruitful. Okay. Well, keep going with your story. So you, you went kind of the, what was the best you knew of at the time. So take us through that and then get us up to the point where you introduce chlorine dioxide.

 

Kerri Rivera

So 2004 was a diagnosis. 2010, I had done every stem cells. I'd seen every one of the major doctors in the United States. And my son was better, but he wasn't where we wanted him to be, of course. And so at that point, I had just come off of a protocol that was totally insane. was studies every two weeks. It was 120 supplements a day, including drops. It was totally insane, totally insane. And he was just barfing up, vomiting up.

 

entire pills. Like it was really bad. And at that point he was going to turn 10 in August and that was June. And I was just devastated. I mean, there was nothing left to, there's nothing on the horizon. You know, I did hyperbarics and like I said, stem cells and ozone. I did everything possible. Injections B12 and glutathione and like you name it, chelation, IV chelation, oral chelation, cream chelation, supposit... Like everything possible, it had been done with my son. And you know, he still was like, I said, far from that.

 

So it was June of 2010 and I laid on my kids' beds. They were at school. And of course I drove them to school. I came home and I just was like, I don't know. I laid on their bed and I just held my hands open. And of course I've been praying all along like, God, please save my kid. Please make this go away. You know, like nothing happened. It was really marginal. And anyway, I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. But if there is an answer, cause I know.

 

that God doesn't just love rich kids. So stem cells would never mean a $30,000 for family in Venezuela right now. It's like not a possibility, right? So that cannot be the answer. And that's why it didn't work and doesn't work for people. But anyway, so I just asked for the answer. And the idea of this chlorine dioxide came to me because I'd bought it a year prior. So in 2009, I'd gone to see pediatrician in Guadalajara, which is in, it's a major city near where I lived.

 

And so I was talking to the doctor there who was doing IVs on the kids that I was working with at the clinic. And so I went to see him because I was in town and his nurse came in and she had this big, you know, big cardboard box and it had green bottles and blue bottles in it. And I was like, Oh, what are those? You know, women were like, Oh, colors, you know? And, uh, and he's like, Oh, those are detoxification drops. I'm like, Oh, I'll take some sets of that. You know, cause they're like 10 bucks or something ridiculously cheap.

 

And so I got home and I'm like, I don't know what to do with these things. So I called him and he's like, oh, just put one drop of each together or whatever, you for a minute and then, you know, put it water and drink it. And I was like, yeah, all right, fine. So like nothing happened. I tried it myself because that was just 2000. I was, you know, Patrick, of course, because autism is not going to cost $10. It's going to cost you thousands of dollars. So this can absolutely not work for my son. So anyway, I shelved them.

 

And that's when I did that protocol of like 120 supplements and very, very pricey. That was 2009 and 2010. But after that one year, he was actually worse. He just looked bloated, his liver was obviously stressed from all the supplements. And then some healer came to town. He's like, stop all that stuff. His body's not responding. You could see him. He didn't look good. ⁓ His body's not responding to all those supplements that that doctor's giving, so stop that. And so was thinking to myself, if I stop that, I have nothing to go to. There's just no chance that autism recovery is done.

 

And so I did stop it and he was better within 72 hours, like better, better, better, like a lot better. And I was like, okay, so that means that's not the route. And that's like, I said, sometime in June, I did this prayer thing. And then, like I said, it wasn't like a prayer, Hail Mary full of grace or our father, right? It wasn't like that. It was literally like, there has to be an answer and I'm willing to receive it. And so the feeling became that if I were to receive it, it would be a heavy cross to bear and I would have to bear it.

 

but it would work. And it was weird. But it was a feeling. So I still have to this day, like I have feelings and I am not clairvoyant. I have nothing like that. Like I cannot tell you what's going to happen tomorrow or anything like that. But this was just a feeling. And I those kind of things. And it can just be like, know, feeling can come over me. I'm cleaning the house or something. A feeling come over me about something. But it was like that. It was just a feeling. There was no words. It was talking to me. So I don't have schizophrenia or anything like that. But it was a feeling. And then it was

 

you know, go down to your office and see if they're still there. And so they were still in my office and I, you know, activated them and stonk and it went and it's like, okay. So I go online now it's 2010. I've just spent the last six years and probably about $750,000. So my husband at the time was my ex-husband now because of all this. So anyway, he was, he was like, I don't want to hear about diets. I don't want to hear about protocols. I don't want to hear about anything. Yeah. I'm just done with the whole thing. He was done. And of course it's my son. can never be done.

 

I just can't. can't. So ⁓ anyway, so I started to research it just on my own. get on my tablet. I would just research it and chlorine dioxide opens a viral envelope, destroying the virus. It kills parasites. malaria destroys in the blood. It's a gas. goes everywhere. It's not, it's not reduced to just the veins or the gut.

 

⁓ It's antibacterial, it's antifungal, it neutralizes heavy metals, it takes down body inflammation, it passes the blood, brain barrier. I'm like, my God, this is a cure for autism, this is a thing, right? But he doesn't wanna talk about any of this anymore. we were already done, we were done. And actually it was 2010, that was the halfway point of our marriage. was over, we were just fighting all the time and nobody wanted to talk about it.

 

anything that I want to talk about as far as recovery. So I kind of just kept researching it on my own and looking. had that, but I wasn't giving it. was researching it still. And it was just perfect. I mean, I was reading testimonials and this kind of stuff. So I go to the clinic one day in August. now like a month and a half or so has passed and Patrick is about to turn 10 on the 12th of August. So just before that, I go to my clinic and I had a hyperbaric chamber, two and a half ton chamber. Out of the chamber was popping.

 

the cousin of the best friend of the father of my kids and his girlfriend. They came out and they're Mexican. And I'm like, hey, how are you guys doing? And they didn't give me the traditional kiss on the cheek. So Mexicans usually kiss on the cheek or a hug, kiss on cheek. They're like, we're taking MMS. I'm like, blah. I'm sorry. Cause that's what they used to call it. I'm like, oh my God, I've been investigating it for two months. you know, Memo won't hear it and I don't know what to do. And they're like, they're like, oh, it's great.

 

You know, we were feeling great and all this kind of stuff. And I'm like, oh my gosh, can you come to the house? So they, yeah, sure. We'll come over. Like they were so stoked. It was insane. So they come to the house. I'm like, you know, they're, they're here and you know, can you talk? And so he comes down and, know, everything's great. And that he's excited and he was like, sure, you know, we'll take it. If we don't die, we'll give it to Patrick. So of course we had very low criteria. Um, but they were talking about how they're doing seminars in the Dominican Republic, how this guy, Jim humble founded it, you know, curing malaria and the, and the

 

you know, the deep jungle of South America and how they're taking it, how great they're feeling. And so he's like, okay, so we'll start, you know. So we started taking it right around the 10th birthday of Patrick. And then came the time to start giving it to Patrick. And Patrick was a 10 year old who weighed 100 pounds. And I didn't know how to give it. But I found an email for Jim Humble and his church. They call it church at the time. Anyway.

 

So I I'm like I have this clinic, you know, I'm writing this email to Jim. I'm like I have this clinic I do conferences around the world in Latin America. Hey, can you like help me? I don't know how to dose it for kids because everything on the internet is for adults and then I finally a couple days later get an email back from from Mark Grenen who he and Mark Grenen and Jim Humboldt started this kind of church really it was just trying to get protection which doesn't work anyway, because if they want you they're coming for you no matter what you say you're hiding behind so

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah.

 

Kerri Rivera

They told, Jim sent me an email and it said, you know, 25 pound child, one drop eight times a day, a 50 pound child, two drops eight times a day, a hundred pound child, three drops eight times a day. So, okay, he's a hundred pounds, three drops eight times a day. So, this one day I start with the three drops and you see the drops, you're like, come on, that's not gonna do anything, you know, like, ah, whatever. So I'm, you know, three drops, three drops, three drops, three drops. By the afternoon projectile vomiting happens and we're all like, whoa, that's crazy. But now understanding detox. So of course we just finished six years of detox. So.

 

There had been vomiting. There had been rashes. There had been sleepless nights. There had been a lot of diarrhea or whatever. So it wasn't out of the norm for biomedical interventions or even chemo and radiation. mean, it caused that kind of stuff too. So any kind of an intervention against a toxin or pathogen or an invading thing in the body can cause that. So I wasn't really freaked out. I just stopped it, gave him his dinner. And that night, was around 9 o'clock, and I was in the TV room with him. We were alone.

 

when I'm reading a book and he's on his touch screen computer, he's jumping up and down flapping. And he turns to me at nine o'clock at night, which he's never done. He says, I want bed. And I was like, And then I thought to myself, ⁓ I'm hearing things. Like that didn't happen. I'm just hearing things. And so I just said, okay. And he started up the stairs to his bedroom. And I was like, okay. And then I would get there and he turns to me, he looks me in the eyes like, and he's like, I want take bath. So Patrick at that point could ask for like,

 

I want go walk or I want car. Like that point he, you with the diet and some of the intervention, like hyperbarics helped, but I mean, we were still like screaming and we were still at all kinds of insanity going on. At that point I was like, wow, that was amazing because you know, I want bed. It was like, well, he's never asked for that. And actually like during Christmas or new years or something, we had the family over and you know, we would stay up late. He would stay up until one or two in the morning. I mean, he would just be standing there flapping, jumping in, know,

 

you know, moving his touch screen computer around. He was a big YouTuber. So anyway, that was like, you know, he could do that. But it was nine o'clock at night, like a totally typical time to be heading to bed. And then as I was, as I was drying him off after that bath, I went on to take bath and I peeled the towel and I'll never forget this. I have a terrible memory, but some of the things like are etched in my brain as I peel it back, his eyes meet my eyes. There was no veil of autism and he was smiling with that spark in his eye again. And was like, my gosh.

 

And everybody always told me, your son's a non responder and all that kind of stuff. But from that day, which was sometime in August, 2010, my son has never lost that eye contact. And we went up from there. So then I opened my clinic back up after summer and people are like, ⁓ my gosh, what are you doing with Patrick? I'm like, well, there's this doctor, Wala Hara, who sells his drops and here's his number. So people are buying and they're like, okay, what do I do with it? Tell me what to do. like, ⁓ I'm like, how do I figure this out?

 

And so then I started to have the idea of breaking it up into a baby bottle, starting with one drop, taking one ounce every 45 minutes to an hour. And then by breaking it up, you're getting 1 16th of a drop because it only lasts in your body for 45 minutes. So you just replace it every 45 minutes. And by December of 2010, four kids recovered. So literally four months after Patrick started taking his first drop, there were four recoveries.

 

Christian Elliot

Explain recovery like what give paint a picture of

 

Kerri Rivera

So from being autistic, where you have no eye contact, you don't speak, are having poor social conduct, poor behaviors, sleeplessness, diarrhea, constipation, eating disorders, kind of stuff, to totally typical like any other child that is typical, that doesn't have a diagnosis of anything. Wow. And I remember getting one close to Christmas from a mother from Spain, because I mostly did everything in Spanish at that point.

 

and a mother from Spain, had actually come to do hyperbarics at my clinic and I was doing the CD. I'm like, okay, here, do this stuff. So they started doing both things at one time. So like two or three months later, this child, she was higher functioning by that point and she lost her diagnosis and the title of the email or the subject line was recovered girl. And so I started reading it and the psychologist, the people that gave her her diagnosis were like, well, she probably didn't have it to begin with, you know, but she doesn't have autism.

 

And she was a child that was like really antisocial, poor eye contact. At that point she had speech, but it wasn't appropriate speech. She only ate blended food. Like she wouldn't, she had, you know, big sensory issues and stuff. And within three months she was recovered. And, but again, she'd been doing diet and they'd been doing biomedical intervention. So she was better, but she wasn't recovered. And then by the time February came, there were 38 kids recovered.

 

Because then I by that time I had been six months working, you know, but through emails with families mostly in Spain and Latin America So I said I have to go to the Dominican Republic and I have to meet Jim I have to give him a hug and I have to tell him thank you and actually my PowerPoint presentation is still online. It's like oh my god It's so old, but um, it was the one that I dedicated to jim And so anyway, I went there. It was uh, a february of 2011 It's a dominican republic. I mean it was like

 

Anyway, we lived through that one, thank God, because it was like right on the Haiti border. And ⁓ got to meet Jim and Mark and other people that were taking a course, learning how to use QuoriumDocs at the time. And of course, said, I'll do a presentation on autism for your people and spend the week there and we'll go home. So that was kind of it. I can't tell you I learned a whole lot of new stuff there, but I went there to share with other people what I was doing and how it was working and that kind of course to say thank you to Jim for.

 

having walked that walk for a really long time because it's a really difficult path. They treat you either like you're crazy or they treat you like a villain. And quite the opposite is true. And of course, like Dr. Stephanie Seneff said in her glyphosate book, one of the things is that chlorine dioxide will break down glyphosate into useful molecules and then the body will get rid of it naturally like that. It will use it up and get rid of it. So they don't want us to know that. And I don't wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist, but...

 

If you're affecting one in 31 kids and you're not looking at the one thing that every child across the world, like every single country in the world has the same exact vaccine policy, how's that possible? Who controls the world? It's not Putin, Trump, Macron, name them. It's not them. Somebody controls all the stuff that's happening because otherwise we wouldn't have all masked up and we wouldn't have all been jabbed with the same stuff. So at that point, we have to take a look at what we're doing.

 

And it's really important to me to try to end the epidemic. I've had, unfortunately, I've had so many attacks, ⁓ whether it was internet attacks or my house has been swatted by 15 police. But on that warrant to come into my house was the troll who motivates all this kind of stuff. And it makes you wonder, what's the motivation? Are you just a crazy psychopath troll, online terrorist, or?

 

Are you paid? you know, this troll, for example, has free housing from their government and they got a bunch of kids and they, you know, they, tow the, the line of, know, what the promotion of the flag is and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, make sure you say to yourself, this is not organic. Cause if you go online, they do that bleach queen and all this kind of stuff. But if you look for a damaged family, like a family like, my kid, there's nothing like that. No child has ever been harmed. Actually, no person has ever been harmed by chlorine dioxide. So.

 

That said, it's just these attacks and slander and defamation of character, if maybe if I was an attorney, it would be a lot easier if maybe I had a close friend or family member that was an attorney, it might be very different. But of course, attorneys are extremely expensive, especially like on the international front and getting things done internationally is very, very difficult. But it is definitely defamation of character and it's illegal what's happened to me.

 

Christian Elliot

Man, no kidding. Well, it's fascinating that you had that, I'll just call it premonition or that sense of you're about to find something that really will help your son and you're gonna take a lot of flack for it when you learn about it and use it. And yeah, to be able to grow to as much as you did with that big of a following on Facebook or that many people being helped, 5,000 recovered kids, 100,000 people that are reversing this problem, 10 languages, 60 moderators.

 

Kerri Rivera

13 it was 13 languages and there were 60 moderators and it was like Russian and Portuguese and Spanish and English ⁓ Arabic. I'm trying to think what other languages there were, but we had so many languages. was unbelievable. I'm leaving. Italian, so my book's translated into Italian, Turkish. My book's translated into Turkish. And I told you, there's probably one in Chinese because my book I know was pirated and somebody told me that it was translated into Chinese. And I was like, oh, please, please send me just to see what it looks like. It'd be so cool. But they never sent me the PDF of it, so I never got to see it. But I'm sure that there is a group, because I've seen somebody sent me something about it. But I lost all my groups due to this troll.

 

they just started saying they're harming kids and bleaching all that kind of stuff. So my groups came down, but there's still like right now, there's other people that can have it, but just my name, Kerri Rivera, if you put it in, it gets blocked immediately. Even if I put up a teddy bear, you know, with a different face or something like that, just that name is blocked immediately. So yeah, it's pretty, pretty bad.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, when you've you live through what worse version of the censorship and so I guess I wanted you to tell that part of the story just because I wanted people to have some context for what they might find on the internet as they try to research autism or at this point any health topic is as you know, Google and the organic search is basically dead and they're just marketing appendages of the medical cartel rather than search engines. So.

 

Is there any way that you would tell people if they want to do research or where to go to find this kind of support that you used to be able to offer?

 

Kerri Rivera

Telegram Telegram I mean Telegram Kerri Rivera 2025 so we just keep updating the last number and that's where my my groups are But you these are just hit pieces They're doing like Vice magazine or Guardian or independent or any of these there's hit pieces that they're doing and they're regurgitating the information that's being delivered to them by the same, know troll and I don't know I kind of believe that this person is a psychopath because they you know, they're they're on me they're on Scientology they're on different people and they they go that way

 

So that's, it's unpleasant and it's unfortunate because children are losing their lives and there's very few resources for parents to actually get their children better or recovered. So it's really unfortunate. Yeah, they made sure that I lost my Facebook. They tried to take my Instagram again the other day, which my Instagram is so generic. It's just like, oh, carnivore diet, low glutamate diet. You know, I've got the diet stuff on there. So I don't really have anything. then from there...

 

we can send people to Telegram and things like that. I have no Facebook. They don't allow my name on Facebook and they froze my account. So I'm sure people are like private messaging me and I'm not answering back. But this, I lost my bank account at Chase and know, kind of like the standard eBay is gone, Amazon's gone, book came down, that kind of stuff. you know, it gets old, but at the same time, when you're over the target, I think that that's one of the most important things to know that you're over the target. And when you're watching the children getting their lives back, it's like, you know, there's always going to be dark when there's light.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah.

 

Kerri Rivera

For example, I had my house raided in Germany in 2021 and on the search warrant was the troll's name saying that I harmed two children in Germany. I never worked with the German family. My book is in German. There's no reason to work with the German family if my book is in German. That heater is really hot. So anyway, so I knew that nothing happened, but they still raided the house. And of course that became like, had her house raided in Germany. What they failed to say two and a half years later.

 

the investigation phase that never became a case because they couldn't find enough evidence that I did any wrongdoing. They let the investigation go because they couldn't do anything. Yes, it cost me money. Yes, it did. But guess what? I was vindicated. Because I didn't do anything wrong. There was no child harm. was no complaint by a family against me, just some troll from another country saying, ⁓ this person is bad. know, all they do is they slander you. They defame you. So now I look like this bad person because I had my house swatted, really, what that was all about. That was just...

 

you someone like sending them to me and eventually they got tired of listening to them. Like, okay, let's go see what's going on over at this house. And they took all of my computers, all of my cell phones and all that kind of stuff. Okay, you were successful in having my life interrupted.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, for a crime without a victim.

 

Kerri Rivera

Exactly, but it had everything to do with just, you know, just trying to create something like, look, this person's house was raided. They must be really bad. Kind of like guilty by association. But what's failed to mention two and a half years later, the German government came back and said, sorry, it's over. You know, you didn't do anything wrong. We find no wrongdoing case. That case investigation closed. It was never a case. just never in two and a half years couldn't find anything wrong. Well, guess what? Probably nothing was wrong.

 

Christian Elliot

Your troll is not broadcasting your vindication, I'm confident.

 

Kerri Rivera

Of course not. And that's why Vice magazine, if you look for me in Google, which is Google is not a search engine people. I mean, it used to be, you know, maybe 15 years ago, it a search engine. It is no longer a search engine. You have to go to Brave or, or start page or something else. If you want to actually find information about something important or, know, that, and, even AI now, I know somebody put in like chat GPT or AI, one of those kinds of things. And they put in chlorine dioxide or something. And it said like, it came up like a dangerous bleach or something ridiculous.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, friends, that's what you will find if you search the internet, which implies so many other things that who's controlling search, who's controlling agendas. And heaven forbid we have something as inexpensive to your point. Like this can't work because it's not expensive. And sure enough, it does for so many things. And that's part of why you'd say you're over the target, because this has the potential to do away with the need for so many other interventions, because we're actually getting to the root cause of what happened.

 

Kerri Rivera

Exactly. then, you know, after COVID and Andreas Kalcker made a big push, he's another chlorine dioxide person, big push, and Bolivia actually adopted chlorine dioxide. He went there, gave a presentation about what it was during COVID. The government started giving it away free on the streets to the people. Like they'd just take bottles already prepared and they would drink them. And they were getting people, you know, off of respirators. They were getting them out of their death beds. And so the government created a law.

 

stating that they can use chlorine dioxide for the treatment of COVID. And then of course, all the pressure from all the other countries in South America, and they shut that law down, and then it was back to being bad. But of course they managed to heal tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. They gave away two Olympic-sized swimming pools of it. So I don't know how many, because one of my friends, she's a doctor in Bolivia, and she's like, they would just go to the street, the doctor would go to the street. They would keep taking it, they would go to the street, and they would just give these bottles of chlorine dioxide away.

 

Wow. So that's how people started to hear about it. So now we're in 2025. There's a huge movement. And Jim Humble, who started the whole thing, he said to me one day, he used to live with me and my family in Mexico in 2012. And he said to me, they hate you more than they hate me because you work with children. And that's very true. Like as an adult, you can take whatever you want. can take heroin, can take fentanyl, can take meth, whatever you want to take. Right. And that's your problem. But when it comes to children,

 

That's when people get like, you know, feisty. Well, you know, when our children are harmed and we have to help them to heal, we have to look for options because that ⁓ mainstream medicine caused the problem. They don't have the treatment to recover the person. All they do is have drugs that mask the symptoms of autism. So that's why Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism came to be my first book. And now my second book is just basically CD Protocol. And CD Protocol is a...

 

much thinner version of the book and so people can just like get in there get started and it's really cool too because when they get the book the people are like ⁓ I've already started the diet and we're on drop number this and he's already doing well and then and then I'm like that's so cool you know because you know you can do it from home you don't have to come to see me it's like I'll support you we have support groups whatever but ⁓ you know you're gonna do it at home anyway that's why when I had the clinic towards the end I had a biomedical clinic with a IV nurse and I had

 

a doctor of hyperbarics there and a psychologist doing ABA therapy and stuff like that. I closed the clinic while I had some death threats and it was like not a really good idea to just be a sitting duck. But besides that, by then I was already working with chlorine dioxide and there was just no need. You're gonna do it at home or you're not gonna do it at home. So there's no need for you to come to me for me to help you do something that you're have to go home and do anyway.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, wow, what a story. You've found the, I guess, what I love about interacting with you, you work at a root cause level, like what we do, mostly for adults, you're doing for kids, you're saying there's this diseased tree, something's poisoning this person, or that person, like if you have crops you're growing and they're not growing well, they're either poisoned or there's not enough in the soil to get them well. And it's really just fixing those two things. And you found a potent.

 

detoxification agent to Stephanie's point that will actually disassemble glyphosate, which is a toxin. of us can get away from, and you can heal the gut and then can heal them. It's just remarkably simple. Once you get the foundation of how to heal the body. So let's, let's transition a little bit to your, work you're doing today. So one of that last time you and I talked, you mentioned, ⁓ an A tech score and just kind of, I want people to picture what this journey's like. I heard you say in a different interview that

 

recover treating or healing autism is a lot of work. So dial us in on what you mean by that. And if there's a parent with an autistic kid listening and they're thinking, my gosh, what am I signing up for? Help them picture this journey a little bit.

 

Kerri Rivera

Right, well, there's a lot of stuff that you have to do. And so my journey, one of the people in my journey, like I said, there's kind of earth angels or people that came to me at the right time. So when I was in, I was in San Diego in 20, 2006, January of 2006, doing hyperbarics with my son. And the owner of the clinic, his name was Bob Sansy since passed away and he actually wrote a chapter of my first book. And so I was telling him one day I'm like, ⁓ cause I was in San Diego.

 

for those 20 days doing hyperbarics. And I said, oh, know, back in the day, I probably would have wanted to meet like Mick Jagger or, you know, the guys from ACDC or something like that. But now I really would love to meet Dr. Bernard Rimland, who started all of the biomedical stuff. And he wrote the first book in 1964 called Infantile Autism, where he said, it's not the refrigerator mother. There's something, something, there's some toxicity, there's something wrong because my wife, we have three children and she's a great mother to all three. So it's not that she was cold to our son.

 

And he was the executive producer on Rain Man, Dr. Bernard Rimland. I'm like, he's just for me, like, you know, everything and what he did, I mean, he actually worked, he was looking for the answer. my gosh, if he would have known about chlorine dioxide, he would have had like another 10 years on his life. Just like so excited. But anyway, unfortunately the good ones, the good ones go when, you know, maybe sometimes it's not the right time. I don't know what, anyway. So, and they're doing hyperbarics and I tell Bob that and he's like, Bernie?

 

You want to meet Bernie? Bernie's a good friend of mine, Dr. Bernard Rimland. And I'm like, oh my gosh, really? So he comes to work. And he was an Aussie. He was a spicy Aussie, an older guy. But he was a contemporary of Dr. Rimland. And the Office for Autism Research Institute, which Dr. Rimland started in 1970, was close by. was still on Adams Street. And so it wasn't too far away from where Bob's clinic was for hyperbarics.

 

And so he comes into the office one day and he said, and I'm doing chamber morning and night, morning and night. And he says, on Wednesday tomorrow, he's like, we're going for lunch with Bernie and Gloria, Dr. and Mrs. Rimland. I'm like, oh my God. You know, I like, I was so excited. Like, you're kidding me. And I'm like, oh my God, what am I doing? So have my father, my kids, his best friend had lent me his house and his car and they had several houses and several cars, but it would let me that while I was there. And so I'm like, do you think you could lend me a maid?

 

So the main has made watch my kids while I went for lunch with Dr. Rillin and Mrs. Rillin and of course Bob. So we're driving in his Jaguar and he's got this E-type Jag and he's just a colorful character and I'm like, I'm like, Bob, what am I going to say? And there's a picture of me on the internet. I'm like, I'm an all black. I'm in pantyhose. It's like Southern California. I look so stupid, but I was so excited. I didn't even know what to put on. So I went to like Marshall's and bought a, you know, name brands for Les. bought a suit and hose and shoes.

 

So I'm in the car with Bob. I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna say. know, I mean, I'm just this mother, you know, I'm limping along in life right here, trying to help my kids. And he's just like, when the time comes, you're gonna say, what can I do for Dan, which is defeat autism now. It's no longer, because the Dan divers networks, you know, got funky with them so they had to change it. And so, okay, so we're having lunch and we're talking and he's talking about, you know, detox patches and.

 

and oxygen, you know, and all that kind of stuff. Cause Dr. Rimland was just his focus in life. was 79th time. His focus in life was to find the answers to recover the kids because he knew that they weren't, they weren't coming like this. They were getting it. So he knew that there was solutions. And by that time there were still a lot of doctors that were, you know, like in 1970s when he opened the autism research Institute, people from all over the world. And he had written that book, you know, early, ⁓ early after he had written the book of ⁓ autism. So all these emails and all these letters, you

 

Christian Elliot

Infantile.

 

Kerri Rivera

physical letters were coming to him, people from like Sweden saying, I'm giving my kid fish oil and they're doing great. Gluten-free diet, they're doing great. Magnesium and B6, they're doing great. So he started to compile everything. And then he started to reach out. He was ⁓ a ⁓ naval psychiatrist, so he was an MD. And so he started to reach out to other doctors that would be interested in investigating like what's different about our kids, know, ⁓ testing and all that kind of stuff. So anyway.

 

⁓ You know, he was he was all about whatever could work and that was part of the conversation You know whatever was working at the time and whatever new stuff might help like the hyperbarics that Bob was doing and so then came my time and I said You know, how can I help and he said you couldn't translate the protocol and you can take it to Latin America And I was like I was on the floor at that time. I'm What you know, yeah, so ⁓ so I'm like, ⁓ okay, so we go back to his office and he's giving me documents He's inviting me to take ⁓

 

physician training courses with them and all this kind of stuff. Cause I had the clinic already, but nobody knew in Latin America what to do. So I went to the courses, I went to the trainings, I would travel and learn all this kind of stuff. And during that time, ended up, he had cancer at that time. So he was doing hyperbarics with Bob ⁓ for his prostate cancer, he was getting chemo and radiation. he sent, and by the end of November, he passed away from the treatments and everything.

 

But before he passed away, he was on his deathbed and I gave the translation of the damn protocol to him. So when he did pass away, wrote me a nice letter and all the stuff that I was doing biomedically in Latin America. And it was very nice that he went with his heart to his grave, knowing that we were also taking his message into Latin America and into Spanish. So that was kind of the beginning of that. he was...

 

Yeah, for me that was a really big turning point because then I was like Latin America, you know, I'm thinking like Mexico or even the city I live in or the state I live in or something, but it was taking it to Latin America. And now I've worked with families in 81 countries. So not only do we take it to Latin America, we took it to every continent on the globe. And there are children recovered all around the world, which is just a huge blessing to know.

 

that it is, you know, if there's an epidemic, we know that it is not just something that is coming organically into the lives of these children. Something is happening. Why didn't it exist before 1940s when they started with these type of, you know, forestry programs where they're dumping a bunch of toxins and things like that into the waters and into the ground?

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, well, I have some of your starstruck for Bernie, I feel that way, just being able to talk to you, because you've lived this so much and seen so many of these things. it's just like the way any of us would want to go is how he went. Like you're doing meaningful work that you're doing your best to contribute and knowing that you're going to turn it over to capable hands when you're done with it. And in many ways, his legacy lives through you. So well done and keep it up.

 

all right. Tell us a little bit about this, this ATEC score and how you've used that as a tool to help families just kind of get their head around what this process of healing is like.

 

Kerri Rivera

Well Dr. Rimling created the ATEC score. ATEC stands for Autism Treatment Evaluation Checklist. It's free. Anybody can use it. So you can go to autism.org and at the top right corner there's it says ATEC click on it and then it says take the ATEC now it's in 26 different languages and I always recommend people do it in their own mother tongue because even I speak fluent Spanish when I try to do it in Spanish because there's a lot of double negatives and stuff like my child does this sometimes rarely never you know or doesn't do this or

 

Anyway, so what it does is it gives the parents a tool. It's kind of like going on a diet. You you don't get on the scale, you don't know how much you waste, you don't know how much you've lost. Well, autism treatment evaluation checklist, a zero ATEC means fully recovered, neurotypical, like every other child who doesn't have a diagnosis of any kind, just typical going about their lives. So typically, when you go in to do the ATEC, you're gonna find like, for example, they have the speech part, you know.

 

speaks one word, two words, puts words together, conversational, not conversational. Then the next one is like behaviorals, know, hits themselves, whatever. Then the other one is like toileting and self-care. ⁓ There's five different parts and you know, one of them is like social and this kind of thing. So it's really beautiful because I have the families do it every 90 days. We do it before we start.

 

And then we do it every 90 days. Like even before we start the diet, we do it. And it's important to measure whatever protocol you're doing. If you're not doing it, it's free for anybody. And you can go there right now and just do it, you know, just do it for yourself, you know, even like that. But a zero A-Tech is, you know, perfectly healthy, typical person. There's no wishes whatsoever. And I've seen thousands of children go from, you know, like head banging, screaming, biting, yelling nonverbal to a zero ATEC where they take.

 

no CD, they take no diet, they do nothing of the protocol anymore. And I have some of my parents, like one of my moms, she lives in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, where I lived all the time. And her son, he just graduated from high school and he has the best university in Latin America offering him scholarships. Like he's just fine. He's just fine. I I had his, celebrated his birthday with him and his mom and other friends of their family.

 

two years ago and I sat across from him and it was like, I didn't cry, it was so powerful. It was so wonderful just to watch this human being and he's lovely. Like he's not even, I mean he's just lovely. He's a nice guy and his mom's like, oh, this is Kerri and she recovered Matthias and blah, blah, blah and she's going on and on I'm like, maybe you shouldn't say that. Maybe like Matthias doesn't want people to hear that and Matthias is like, yeah mom, know, she's great or yeah mom, you know, whatever. And I was like, oh my God, this kid and he's just.

 

You know, he's not even embarrassed or anything like that. No, he's fine. He's like, yeah, I was like that. You know, and he remembers when he couldn't converse. Because he said he had in his mind what he was trying to say, but it wasn't coming out. And then he would tantrum and this kind of stuff. So, ⁓ and she was a single mom. So people think, ⁓ you know, have to be rich to do it or you have to be, she was a single mom who worked and she made very little money.

 

And it was, with my clinic, I tried to offset the cost of supplements and things like that. Cause I did have friends ⁓ who donated to my clinic. Mostly they were my friends that made donations. They'd come to Mexico and they'd be like, my God, you're so crazy. Here's money for your kids, you know? But they saw what was happening. I it was a real clinic and we really helping people. And so that was very motivational. And I remember I had one girl, for example, she came into the hyperbarics because one of my friends donated money for the oxygen.

 

And ⁓ she was a child who had seizures and she was having regular seizures from the time she was around two until she did finish her hyperbarics and she went out of the chamber not having any more seizures whatsoever. So like there's even cases like that child's, I've talked to the mother about four or five years ago and she's probably 20 now. She's not recovered, but she has no epilepsy whatsoever and she lives a peaceful life and she's a peaceful child, adult now. And so, you there's the...

 

Fully recovered where, like I said, I like Matthias or some of the other kids that are fully recovered and they got their lives back. And then there's some other kids that are just leaving a lot better because they've gone through these treatment modalities.

 

Christian Elliot

Well,

 

give the listener a sense of where your son was. What was his score and what did you get it down to? How was he doing?

 

Kerri Rivera

Yeah, well my son, my son is not like people say, well you didn't recover your son. My son was like 147 A-Tech, meaning he was like drooling, nonverbal, not sleeping, diarrhea, screaming, yelling. Like we went from like, know, he would walk towards traffic. Like there was just, you know, or yeah, I mean, you know, he had to be always accompanied or one time he even like let himself out of the house because he wanted to go get chips at the corner store. I mean, like this kind of stuff was actually, yeah, crazy. Very dangerous.

 

Christian Elliot

Danger to himself,

 

Kerri Rivera

So we went from like something so incredibly severe to a guy who can, you know, order what he wants, take his, you know, care of his bathroom and showering and dressing and all those kinds of things. And actually is able to write in three languages. he's, yeah. So like that's really amazing stuff. And of course the sleep is perfect. The bowels are perfect. The eye contact is perfect. So there's a lot of stuff that's really, really good.

 

And I believe in God and I do also believe that if my son had fully recovered, know, like ATEC zero, you know, like he's now with, you know, in finishing his PhD or whatever and got a girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever, I don't care. ⁓ But so whatever happened with him, you know, then it would be, I would be not interested. Yeah, I would be done. You know, and there's not a lot of people that would keep doing this. And of course nobody knows and doesn't have the experience. So I was trained in all those biomedical interventions because Dr. Rindland

 

gave me that blessing and he always said, know, whatever she wants, she can take all the courses she wants. So I was trained like the physicians to treat. And so I understand profoundly the biomedical part of it. And then I went back to school for homeopathy. And then of course I worked basically in naturopathy. I mean, I work with supplements and know, chlorine dioxide and diet, like, you know, I remember when Patrick was young, like I told you about potato diet. Well, took me a long time to figure it out. And by 20,

 

I realized that there's glutamate and this comes from the work of dr. Russell Blaylock He's a retired neurosurgeon out of Texas, but his book was written in 1997 called excitotoxins a taste that kills So in 2020 had a little time on my hands and so I started to reread one of his books I'm like, oh my gosh the reason the keto the adapted keto diet for autism is not working because the ketogenic foods like broccoli cauliflower Almonds and berries are high in glutamate. Yeah, glutamate. If you have a leaky gut will get into the brain

 

cause excitotoxins and destroy brain neurons. So then I was like, ⁓ my gosh, that's why these kids are not, they're having these really low carbohydrate diets, but they're eating a lot of those foods, know, almond flour, almond butter, almond milk, you know, like, my gosh. So then I really, you know, did a deep dive into which foods were high in glutamate and not, like I said, I saw most of those keto ones that the kids were eating to be high in glutamate. So then I wrote a book.

 

called low glutamate diet. It's all based on the work of Russell Blalock, but he doesn't have a diet. Again, that was like 20 years ago, whatever, 30 years at 97. It's okay, like 30 years ago. So he didn't have a diet. He was just stating how bad glutamate is. And I remember when I read the book the first time, I kind of skimmed through it. It was like, MSG is bad. Well, MSG is bad, but naturally occurring glutamate in like tomatoes and onions and berries and almonds, stuff like that. but I didn't...

 

focus on that, because I was like, well, keto's good, or specific carbohydrate's good, or these kind of labeled diets were good. But you have to look at each food and see what the properties are. Like, high oxalate foods are bad, and most of the high oxalate foods are also high glutamate foods. So I pulled all those out, and the kids started getting a lot better. I was like, wow, this is great. So that's how I ended up writing the book on low glutamate. And then during that process, I read a book, and I think it was 2021, I believe.

 

2021, I read a book by Dr. Sean Baker called The Carnivore Diet. And he lives the carnivore lifestyle and all that kind of stuff. nobody's really talking about it, but he was just kind of appearing on the health part, right? Not autism. So I read his book and I'm like, I'm gonna do that. So the 1st of January, 2022, I started carnivore. And my gosh, my guts felt great. I had good energy.

 

And then my assistant says, hey, Kerri, in one of these groups, there's a mom and her daughter, this recovered child named Macarena, and her daughter is, I forget the name of the daughter off top of my head, anyway, so Mariana. So Mariana's now recovered and her mom did your protocol with carnivore diet. And there's other families from that same Latin American country that would like to start the diet. I said, okay, open the Telegram group, just put all these 38 families or whatever into it. And they're doing my protocol.

 

and they're gonna do carnivore and you and I are gonna watch them. We're gonna do the ATEC score when they start and we're gonna do the ATEC score at three months. By three months, 10 % had fully recovered. Wow. And one of the kids who was not fully recovered had been severe. Like I'd been working with the mom. was, ATEC was 120. So he was a screaming, nonverbal, ⁓ not compliant, ⁓ head banging, pandas child with autism. His ATEC went from 120 to 50.

 

He started to speak. He stopped all the aggressive behavior. He slept through the night. He was quiet. Like I remember the next time I did a consultation with her, he was just quiet. I did, it used to be like, you know, between the screams we would be talking. So he, so even just in that change of diet. So you go to this elimination, like the carnivore diet is the truest form of elimination diet. So it's just perfect. And of course, ⁓ beef is a meat that nobody,

 

Nobody unless somebody got that lime. Yeah, exactly. Otherwise nobody has an allergy to beef. So it's one of those like you're taking down all the allergens. It's an anti-inflammatory. It's so good for the gut. know, of course, you vegetarians, I've people like the diet, but, know, when you think back about human history, what were we doing to three million years ago? We were like, you know, chasing after mammoths and eating those. And, you sometimes we had berries to pick off the ground or something like that, but we were definitely not like, you know, munching back.

 

kale and spinach or any of these kind of shrub type plants. We're not doing that. The animals were eating them and we were eating the animals. So we do come from a carnivore background. And then if you get into carnivore, there was the very first documentary ever written, ever done was called Nanook of the North. It was done in the 1920s. So the Stephenson, I his first name, went to ⁓ Baffin to watch the Inuit. There are a group of Eskimos that live up there.

 

And they've never eaten a fruit, a vegetable, a grain in their life. They only eat, you know, fatty meats like walrus or seal or salmon or polar bear or something like that. That was that's their whole diet. They had a rough life. But anyway, he did document them and they were extremely healthy. Their bones were strong. Their teeth were strong. They were they were strong. And they would give like the loins like the filet mignon that were like, that's so good. They would give that to the dog, to their pack, because dogs can't do fat.

 

And humans need fat for their bodies to work properly and our brains to work properly. It's really the opposite of what they tell us and all this cholesterol stuff. You have high cholesterol. And then they put these people on these, you know, lowering cholesterol medications, which they never stop working. And of course, that affects their brain. It affects their prostate. There's a whole lot of bad stuff happening with that kind of thing. And of course, you know, the Alzheimer's is high and dementia is high because of those drugs. So anyway, so they in 1920s, they had already seen that.

 

And in the 1920s, were already, know, another hospital was already looking at the benefits of a ketogenic diet, like with zero carbohydrates, which is basically what carnivore diet is. It's a perfect keto at zero carbs. And they were getting rid of epilepsy. They were reversing illnesses like the big C and all these other things just by, you know, going zero carbohydrate. And you can, now, of course, it's a big thing. But so I see families with kids with autism that go carnivore. There's a lot of kids that like meat or...

 

know, bacon that's healthy, doesn't have nitrates or something like that. And it's amazing how fast the ATEC points drop. It's amazing how the symptoms of autism begin to disappear.

 

Christian Elliot

Just with diet. Let me button up something on diet. Have you ever seen a vegetarian or vegan diet work for an autistic kid?

 

Kerri Rivera

I've never I've never I mean they get better. Okay, so get better like my kid was on potatoes, which is vegetarian and vegan He got better but eventually, you know, we did other dietary interventions that were better But I mean, it's all he ate that wasn't gluten or casein. So I'm gonna need chicken He didn't eat fish. He didn't eat beef. didn't eat lamb. He didn't eat anything He just ate like, you know carbs, you know gluten and casein and potato

 

Christian Elliot

Give them something, Right on. Okay. Well, you got so much hard won wisdom from the trenches. So want to fill out a little bit more of a holistic look at this because you, like me, you're, heard you mentioned in a different interview, part of your philosophy is finding enough things that work together and doing them to like, have made some similar benefit, but they start to overlap and create a synergy that is more than just any one thing. So paint kind of a holistic picture. Cause I've got, I've got a list of things like, you know, whether it's detoxing your home or homeopathy, you're working to heavy metals, parasites. gut cleansing, enemas, there's so many different things people can do. So give us kind of your holistic toolkit, if you will, of what you really, obviously it's gotta be personalized, but help the listener picture more of what this journey might be like.

 

Kerri Rivera

Well, diet is, you the most important thing you're ever gonna do is gonna be the diet. And then the chlorine dioxide, because it destroys pathogens and it reduces inflammation. And enemas, so I got really attacked about enemas. Now we used to do enemas before like 1972 and Miralax and all these other things came out. But in 2011, families that I was working with in Spain, the person who was their provider of chlorine dioxide was telling them to do enemas. And so the parents were like in this little group, I think it was a WhatsApp, I don't even remember.

 

the kids were doing really well with the animals. They were the ones that were like almost, know, ATEC 9, you know, they were doing amazing. And then this one dad sent me this video and it was from, you know, the little potty chair and these long, strandy things that were like coming down. He's like, look, look, look, look, look, with like, you know, plastic fork, like showing me. I'm like, my gosh, that must be candy though. And so Jim Humble says, you need to meet my friend, Andreas Kalker. So Andreas and I had ⁓ a Skype meeting. He was living in Spain.

 

I was living in Mexico and he said, well, that stuff that you're seeing coming out of those enemas are parasites. And I'm like, nobody in autism ever spoke of parasites. And there was not a parasite on the horizon. Like we absolutely started that fire. And so anyway, I was like, wow, parasites. It's don't worry. My wife and I are working on a protocol because she has parasites and you know, there's these certain things that we need. I'm like, okay, I'm waiting, you know? So then by the early 2012 started the parasite protocols, but with the enemas parasites were coming out. of course,

 

when you would do an enema, when you have the parasites in you, the body is absorbing all that toxicity and they're very neurotoxic. So there's like all these behaviors that are coming along with it. You do the enema, you rinse them out and happy child's back and more chatty and better eye contact and sleeping great. And so it was helping the body to rid itself of the parasite. They're very sticky. So they stick inside the intestines. They sometimes will stay behind or the biofilm chlorine doxal will dissolve biofilm if you do enemas.

 

Because if you drink it, doesn't go like mouth to anus. It's not a tsunami. It's a gas, so it gets absorbed into the body. So that last part of the intestine, it's not really having the benefits that the upper part of the body might be having, or the rest of the intestine. So that was, hence the enemas. And ⁓ at first, everything was fine. And then the trolls showed up around 14 or 15. And again, we had a great four-year run of just having recoveries and recoveries and the rest of the world finding out about this. So that was, and of course, there's good and bad, because still we're the...

 

where there's bad press, at least is press. there's been a lot of, know, hit pieces on me, but that's also brought people into the movement. And like I said, you know, since COVID, I mean, there's just massive groups on telegram. There's like one group of a hundred thousand, it's called the universal antidote. There's another one that's chlorine dioxide testimonies. These are the massive groups, like 40,000, a hundred thousand. And they're not autism. They're just, you know, everything. But everything is, you know, every illness, as you know, I mean, they're all kind of having the same root, you know, like we were talking, you know, Dr. Holder Clark.

 

She wrote books many, many years ago. Like one was called a cure for cancer. One was called a cure for diabetes. They were all cure for, probably before you could actually say that. And everything with parasites. I mean, the book inside was the same, but the outside of the book was, know, cure for whatever it was. And it was all about parasites. But so she had talked about that years prior, but Andreas had identified it and then started that protocol. And then we just started doing his protocol for parasites, which was Mobendazole, ⁓ Stonebreaker, and Castor Oil, which happens to get the parasites out of the gut.

 

So now of course ivermectin is very popular people like why don't you use ivermectin because chlorine dioxide is a gas and it gets the ones in the blood it's anti-malarial so we don't need anything to go systemic but in the gutter where you have these big suckers and so ⁓ The mobendazole is great stays mouth to anus. It doesn't go through the liver So that's been a great one. And of course, it's you anti-tumoral So that's why nobody wants to know about mobendazole. That's why in the states in canada, you can't get it but go to third world country you can pick it up over the

 

You know, just at the pharmacy, like an aspirin or you can order it online from India. They'll send it to you anywhere. So that was that was kind of this whole kind of a change, you know, and again, just another reason to attack me. But it's been amazing. The animals are fantastic. And I have families that, you know, have older kids, 19, 20, 26, whatever. And they do animals, you know, because people used to do animals. It was like purges like, you know, the grandmother used to give the kids castor oil. They used to give them which

 

or cod liver oil, what was that other one that was really popular? Mineral oil, I think it was called. was so disgusting. Our parents used to give that to us, that kind of thing. But that was, we used to do purges. And of course, I know my ex-mother-in-law, because her mother was from the ranch in Mexico, and she used to purge her kids, I don't know, a few times a year. She's like, oh, I should get all this stuff and whatever, but that would get rid of the parasites. And of course, now we have something simple. You take a tablet of Mabendazole and Presto Change-O, everything's great.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah. Man, but you, that's such simple things. You've got changing how you eat. Just take out toxic food. You add chlorine dioxide, let it do its thing. You do some enemas. so are those are obvious. got three major levers there. there any other things that you really fall back on as like this tends to nudge and kick it into another year of healing?

 

Kerri Rivera

Absolutely. So some of the things that I do is like increasing the stomach acid with betaine hydrochloric acid tablets because ⁓ if you have low hydrochloric acid, one is you're not digesting food. So parents are always telling me, you know, it's coming out the way that it went in, you know, corn or whatever they're eating, which they shouldn't eat corn, but you know, the food is going undigested out the other end that shows low hydrochloric acid in the stomach. if you are low hydrochloric acid,

 

you cannot absorb the B vitamins, the minerals, the amino acids from the foods to begin with. So literally you are just passing it out. And that's why a lot of the doctors are having our kids take a lot of B vitamins, a lot of minerals, and their levels are never changing in the labs because they don't have the hydrochloric acid. They don't understand it. And this goes back to the work of Dr. Jonathan Wright. He wrote a book, buy it. It's online somewhere called Why Stomach Acid is Good for You. It's a small little book and it's fantastic. Dr. Roby Mitchell, rest in peace, told me about that. He got me into that.

 

Lithium orotates a big winner. It helps to balance. Oh my gosh, circadian rhythms and and and Focus concentration lower anxiety and these are not medications. These are not dangerous medications or minerals I use who make full week because there's a whole host of stuff that it does, you know 77 minerals takes heavy metals out of the brain It kills pathogens in the blood. It's everything is bioavailable. It's wonderful. Wonderful black seed oil soothes the gut, know, we've got this

 

A lot of itis from mouth to anus. We have a lot of itis in there. So the black seed is just soothing. Helps to kill pathogens as well. Breaks down biofilm. Helps to detoxify the cells. Because we also have to get the bacteria and virus that are living inside the cell out of the cell. We have to firewall the cell as well. Got to get your inflammation down. And some of this stuff seems redundant. Like I know like the structured silver, which is not colloidal silver. The black seed oil, the chlorine dioxide, the lithium orotate, the methylene blue.

 

And some of these, they're all kind of redundant, yet they do the same sort of things in their own sort of way with their own individual extra benefits. But otherwise, like I remember Jim Humble used to tell me, he's like, you can cure autism in three weeks. You don't need anything else. Like you can't. But anyway, autism is really complex. And of course it takes place at the most important developmental time in a human being's life. That's what we're just changing all the time.

 

and we're getting hit and so now what? The other thing with autism is every month that the child is out of commission, they're losing the social capacity, they're losing things. So time is not on our side. cannot like, parents will be like, well, my kid's gonna be like in like January. Well, know, he, she's gonna be on vacation in June. So why don't I just start it in June? I'm like, you're gonna lose six more months. Are you kidding me? So, know, time is of the essence. We've got to get busy and we've got to get serious. And this is not a diet to lose weight. The parents will be like, well,

 

We're pretty good on the diet. Hihi. I'm like, that's not hihi. That's like you're you're accepting the sentence of life sentence that autism will be in your child until they die at the age of 80 or whatever. I there's not even a shortened lifespan or anything like that. It's they're going to live a long time. Who's going to take care of them when you're gone? We have to move faster. And of course there's other things like speech supplements, GABA, magnesium, DMG, taurine, theanine.

 

5-HTP, there's a lot of different things that are very useful for that as well. Or moppers, know, like you use a charcoal mopper, use an H7 to get rid of the ammonia. And then of course our chelators, Bensonite clay baths, zeolite, and there's a lot of different methods, but I prefer the liquid nanos because they can get into the bloodstream and pass the blood brain barrier. EDTA is very important. It's a general heavy metal chelator. And the nice thing about chlorine dioxide, because it neutralizes heavy metals, you can use liquid chelators that are nano that will go and pick it up. Like you don't need to do IVs, you don't need to do...

 

you know, anything like you don't have to fly across the world to do these kinds of crazy things. And that's kind of it. And then there's the, you know, hyperbaric chamber or, ⁓ my gosh, there's, you know, there's like some zany stuff. Like there's a study about nicotine patches and people are like, yeah, but smoking is bad for you. I'm like, I'm not telling you to start smoking. So the work by Dr. Brian Artis. And of course there's that study about aggressive autism from the, I think it's the NIH.

 

where they did a study with aggressive autism and they used nicotine patches. So the nicotine is absorbed into the bloodstream. It firewalls the cell because all cells have nicotinic receptors on the outside. And that keeps the bacteria and virus from getting onto the cell and getting into the cell. Because that's why, like I'll see families that have done like IV antibiotics or six months or 10 months or three, four years of antibiotics because their child's now diagnosed with pandas as well, which is strep bacteria.

 

and the children are really not a lot better. And of course their guts, you know, just being destroyed. And the problem is that the bacteria goes into the cell and it can wait out the period of antibiotics. And then when the antibiotics end, out comes the bacteria and you see it again. But now you see it worse because any good flora that was even remotely leftover is gone. And the proliferation of the bacteria now becomes unstoppable.

 

and the immune system is shot because of the, you know, destroying whatever the gut flora was even left over.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, that's a shame that antibiotics are kind of handed out like candy and their the side effects or the downstream problems that come from them Just are so overlooked. So I'm glad you pointed that out

 

Kerri Rivera

Devastating actually to our community.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, well, I think you've mentioned even in a different interview that one of the potential reasons for autism without a vaccine and the equation is just too many antibiotics too soon. That can wreck the human frame and the body's ability to detox itself. So yeah, it makes sense.

 

Kerri Rivera

I've even seen, you know, I've even seen, ⁓ so for example, I just took a case this week of pandas, non-vaccinated pandas, pediatric autoimmune neuro disorder associated with streptococcal infection. And ⁓ the child started having symptoms of pandas, meaning like, you know, defiance and meltdowns and all this kind of difficult behavior after a surgery, adenoid. I don't remember what the surgery was, but after surgery, and I've seen also, I've also seen cases where

 

Children had to go in for like nine months or 12 months for like, they were having an infection. they ended up doing, cesarean, they ended up doing a circumcision. There were two kids that were one of my Facebook groups back in 2012. And neither one of those children were vaccinated, but both had this like emergency kind of a circumcision thing because of an infection. They came out of the surgery, lost speech, lost eye contact. And then, know, like six, 12 months later were diagnosed with autism.

 

Christian Elliot

You think it's anesthesia that's part?

 

Kerri Rivera

Absolutely, absolutely. And our kids too, if they go in for like a dental procedure and they put them out, they come back with autism much worse. Their A-tech goes skyrocket.

 

Christian Elliot

Wow, good intel there. Okay, so we talked about things to add or I guess the restrictions in the food category, but are other things to take away something like screen time or detoxing the home or anything? Give some parents some insight into that.

 

Kerri Rivera

This is really cool. I went, I think it was 2000, this is before the chlorine dioxide thing. So maybe 2006, so I was still giving presentations internationally in Latin America on biomedical interventions, which is what Dr. Raman let me be trained in. So I went to a conference to speak about biomedical interventions in Belize. And at that conference, there were two psychiatrists from Cuba, and they were presenting on their findings in Cuba that when they took away screen time,

 

from children who were starting to show symptoms of autism around 12 to 18 months, that that reversed. And then there's some studies, you can even find them online, that it shows a thinning, and I believe it's of the, ⁓ I wanna say the amygdala, but it's not, anyway, it's gone. It's on the internet if you just look for like, know, autism and thinning in the brain. And it shows that the brain becomes like almost calloused like an old man brain, like an old person, old woman, whatever brain.

 

Christian Elliot

Out.

 

Kerri Rivera

And so the learning stops and there's a lot of stuff. So the screen time is terrible. The best we can do is have no screen time. And then, know, the worst case scenario after the age of two, one hour a day is the maximum amount of screen time. And I mean, computers, TVs, cell phones, iPads, all that stuff has to go. yeah, so screens are a big deal, like you said, and that's, that's another thing. Or, you know, even if you can go organic.

 

That would be better. And a lot of us can't afford organic or can't find organic. Those are some real things. then that's another reason if you go carnivore, which really cool, the cow has enough time to work off the vaccines. It's not like a chicken that you're absorbing everything, you're taking in their antibiotics, because they only live three to six weeks. ⁓ That's how that factory farming is. But cows, live longer. So you have a better chance of not getting so much toxicity, even though unless you're organic, there's still toxicity in our food chain.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, any other things around the home that you would say are just flashing red lights of toxic influx that parents may not be aware of?

 

Kerri Rivera

Well, there's a lot of people like 5G or this kind of stuff. If we live on the planet, mean, the satellites are beaming down at us. There's a 5G tower everywhere. It doesn't matter if you live in the middle of nowhere, you're still getting reception. So people are like, ⁓ go on to one of those cable cords or whatever for your internet. Don't do wired internet, not wireless. But if you turn on your cell phone, you're picking up everybody in the neighborhoods. So you're getting terrible internet. I don't think that that's the thing. ⁓

 

cover your house in tin foil or something like that. Yeah, you can do these kind of things, but they're not going to give you really much, especially if you don't live in a bubble. It's just not really possible. So I think that that kind of thing is overrated. They have grounding machines. There's ⁓ that red light, which goes with the methylene blue, so I'm not opposed to red light, or foot baths that they put these coils in and stuff.

 

I've never seen anything with these kinds of things, but there's lots of different things you can try or magnets or crazy stuff. Those are the things that I just see to have very little, if any improvement in our kids. So I like to keep people, we all have limited amount of time, limited amount of money. So now at that point, what are we gonna do? So this is how my protocol, my protocol, this is how I ended up really like streamlining as much as possible.

 

yet putting in everything that's needed. Like I have to increase the stomach acid. I have to kill the pathogens. I have to reduce the inflammation. You know, we have to take out the heavy metal. as you're, and then you have to help the body like with H7 to get rid the ammonia or the charcoal to get rid of the toxins from the pathogens while we're sleeping. And so we have to make it as comfortable as possible or like the enemas to take out the bad stuff, you know, the biofilms and the parasites and things of that nature and detoxify the liver. That's.

 

So people are like, well, can I just give somebody to cause diarrhea? Like that is not the same thing as an enema. Diarrhea is not an enema. You want to really be able to detoxify the liver as well. And then of course, speech supplements. You need your GABA, your DMG, taurine, theanine, carcinocin, these kind of things. I mean, that just really helps. Or lithium orotate. And there's certain supplements that do help. And now not everybody needs everything. Or hyperbarics. I've had some kids.

 

do really well, like my own son did really well with hyperbaric, but real hyperbarics, 1.75 atmospheres. I'm not talking about 1.3, which you can't get from something you can buy and put into your house. Sorry about the dogs. So there are different interventions. And like I said, as stem cells, I've never talked to a family that was like, oh yeah, that was great. I never saw that. Or some of the fecal matter transplant. I've never had a family say to me like, oh, that really was a game changer. I've never, ever, ever seen or heard that.

 

And I have the ability to talk and meet many, many thousands of parents that have done a lot of different things. So ⁓ yeah, I've just not seen those kind of, know, kind of fly by night things really work.

 

Christian Elliot

Man, you are such a wealth of knowledge and just similar to me. You just, you've had to piece together. How do you do this over time and find, how do I major in the major things that are the most needle moving? And sure, where there's discretionary income or there's time or there's options, incorporate a few other things, but well done weeding through this landscape for as long as you have for the rest of us. Thank you for that. One last thing I want to ask you about, you mentioned on a different interview, just how often the parents have.

 

They, because they've been caretakers for so long, they're under burden and their bodies are breaking down and you've had moms, whether it's auto immunity or limes or other things they've recovered from. Tell people a little bit and give, give the parents a little more hope that make this a family event.

 

Kerri Rivera

What's so cool, because most of the parents that are doing biomedical usually do this stuff at the same time their children do. And just the same like, you know, with us, you know, if we don't die, then, you we go on. ⁓ So they'll start the protocol too. I've watched hypothyroid go away, Hashimoto's go away, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, Lyme disease. I've watched all these go away just as mothers did it with their kids. And then I had a dad who started the protocol and he was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

 

and he did the protocol without the enemas, which I'm like, I'm not gonna do the enemas, he didn't wanna do the enemas, and he recovered from that as well. So those are just the ones that I watched happen like while I had these large Facebook groups. And of course now, because there's just so many people and there's so much stuff, and I know so many people that are doing similar things for other, you know, like these online groups of 100,000, which are not autism, they're related to everything else. And like, there's just like nothing that hasn't been recovered, or pets, or diabetic foot, or name it, you know?

 

It's they're just fine. They're recovered. They're they're they're they don't have that problem anymore So that's just the best thing that we could possibly do is just you know, start doing the stuff We're doing with our kids, but i've just seen so many recoveries and so many different things I mean my own mother for example, she was diagnosed four years ago with stage one lymphoma She's still stage one lymphoma. She does everything I tell her to do. Thank god. She listens sometimes, you know

 

a little bit challenging about some of the stuff, but she does it all and she's still stage one four years later. And I believe that her stage won't increase because she's doing everything that is indicated for that. And of course there's Fenben, there's other things that are involved for cancers, but there's just, you know, like there's always something or, you know, I'll be taking a case for a child and the mom be like, you know, I've got this thing. And I'll be like, okay, just do these four things, you know, like that's all I need to do. Start with that and let's see if we don't get rid of it in the next three to six months or.

 

you know, my husband has this and we'll just get him on this at least and let me know.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, right on. Well, hopefully we have as humanity passed the tipping point where this no longer can be suppressed and we can get this out. And it's an honor to be able to amplify and hold the record of what you have learned and synthesized and be able to present that to humanity one more place this can echo into. ⁓

 

the rest of our species so that we can push back against this stuff. So ⁓ we'll start to wrap up here. I guess any other stories you want to tell of just that you may not have mentioned of recovery or of things that have been meaningful to you over the years that would give the listener some hope and verve to try this.

 

Kerri Rivera

Well, I mean, like I said, there's, you know, people just come into my life at the right time, like Dr. Rimlin or Dr. Senif or Dr. Mitchell and Bob Sands. I mean, there's just been so many people, or Jim Humble, you know, just the people that have come into my life that have just, you know, really made a big difference and, you know, given me direction, giving me direction. Like you kind of get to that crossroad. It's like, do I go right or do I go left? And then something over here is like, they sent me, I remember when Dr. Mitchell found me, he, rest in peace, a really amazing doctor.

 

He was very alternative. Anyway, so he contacted me on Facebook. This goes back like 2000, I don't know, 2000, let's go with 15. And he contacts me. like, I want you to come to Amarillo, Texas and teach me everything you know about chlorine dioxide. I'm like, what? What's wrong with this person? Who's this guy? And I'm like, well, wait a second. What are you talking about? He's like, I'm like, you know, I'm, how's that going to go? I got a kid, I'm single mom. And so anyway, I like, can I call you? So I call him up.

 

And ⁓ we start talking and then he starts telling me about stomach acid, black seed oil, hydrochloric acid, all this kind of stuff. And I'm like, okay, got it. know, like that he was sent, he came to give me a message, but the people that come to give me a message are usually coming like they're carrying gifts for me. mean, like I'm supposed to give them something and then they, in turn, they're giving me gifts. And it's just been really a beautiful thing to watch, you know, from my perspective, just because

 

When I sit back and look at it, when you're in it, it's like, it's so frustrating or those kind of things that are, they take your attention away from, and that's what it's meant to do. Those kinds of things are just interruptions and they take your time and money. But the road continues and then the research and the learning and the daily experience continues because you see it in the groups. My assistants, tell me things that are happening now, because of course now this is.

 

you know, 16 years later of chlorine dioxide and 22 years later of biomedical interventions. And, know, I get referrals from medical doctors with families and things of this nature because, you know, they can see that they're getting, they're limited by what's in their, their Dopp kit. You know, they're, they're, they can open it up and they're I got antibiotics, I got antivirals, I've got this, but the kid's not better. And I really want that kid to get better. And like, have you ever heard of this person or have you ever heard of chlorine dioxide? And then they're like, well, are you open to it? They're like, yeah, sure. Okay. Here's your email, you know, kind of thing. I'm sending you so and so.

 

that kind of thing happens. So ⁓ I can't really say there's anything, besides like Matthias is a really cool story. There's another little boy's dad, Homeland Security. His mother did a couple of interviews with me. He was screaming, head banging, nonverbal and ⁓ diet and the whole protocol. And now they're living back in the States and he's regular, I think he's in sixth or seventh grade now and he has sleepovers and he plays an instrument in the

 

in the band at school and he's got his friends and he's got his dog. So these stories are very, very cool of these kids that just go on with their whole life. And it affects the whole family. When a child comes back completely, the grandparents, the parents, because autism, with the diagnosis of autism, divorce is 90%. So 90 % of our families end in divorce.

 

It's really bad. guess I think 50 % is a national average in the United States, but 90 % once you add the autism diagnosis, there's a lot of stress. There's a financial stress. And of course, like what happened with me and my ex-husband was we were always fighting about, know, he didn't want to do anything more because he didn't to spend any more money and didn't want to do it. It's like, no, no, that's how it is. It's like, no, that's not how it is. I'm not going to accept that. And those kinds of things. know, hindsight is 20-20, for example. Some of the things that

 

if you can maybe get into therapy and maybe try to work those things out and talk about why I wanna keep helping my child and why you don't wanna help the child anymore. And then the other thing is a lot of people will just leave, like women or men might just leave the child behind and then go.

 

Christian Elliot

Man, and I imagine the siblings of the autistic child as well, they can kind of just get lost in the morass of that life or lifestyle. So yeah, guess if nothing else, what I heard, I'm glad I asked you that last question, because I heard just a nudge to have some courage, to reach out when you need some help, too. Not just, like your divine appointments came at the, can I just ask you, can I call you?

 

you just took initiative to do something, whether it's send an email or start a group. And sometimes that's just all it takes to get in the game. And do you have a lot to learn? Will it be a journey ahead of you that will require something of you? Yeah, but look at what it can do and the ripple effect of the handful of you, Kalcker, Grenon, Humble, yourself, just not giving up on this, getting the word out and the countless number of people that have been helped just because of courage. And so for any of you listening, have some of that. Anything you wanna add to that?

 

Kerri Rivera

People will say, well, autism is not curable. Well, if you don't do anything, yeah, for sure it's not. You cannot recover somebody if you do absolutely nothing. So yeah, you're a self-fulfilling prophecy. But if you do, and it's a lot of work, that hourly dosing, those supplements, it's a lot of work, but you can recover your child from autism. So they can go back to that direction that they were intended or the first, like with my boy, the first 12 months of life were just fine.

 

And then it was just too much, too much, too much. And then, you know, he went out. So now why can't we take him back? Why can't we get back on that path? in many cases we can, but you know, you have to do the, you have to put in the hard work. And so the nice thing about this protocol is it's not pricey like the other one. You do it from home. You have to go somewhere, but you have to put in a lot of work. And it's not like, I'm going to do it Monday through Friday and take the weekend off or vice versa. I'm gonna it on the weekend and then Monday through Friday, we're not going to. It's a lot of work.

 

But you know, if you're doing the work, you know, maybe between 18 and 36 months, you're done for life. And then you're gonna go to a college graduation or a wedding or you know what I mean, fill in the blank, whatever the goal for you is of somebody who's totally healed and fine.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, well, I remember I asked you last time we talked about, help us understand how hard this is and you made the point, it's already hard. Like, so you're just kind of switching from this hard that you're used to to a different kind of hard. But you're seeing.

 

Kerri Rivera

You're something like you're like my kids looking at me my kids answering questions my kids sleeping through the night my you know

 

Christian Elliot

Yes, evidence of progress is so good for the...

 

Kerri Rivera

Evidence of progress. Exactly. Evidence of progress. So that is just so uplifting, of course. And of course, now, you know, it's you know, I get emails, I get text messages, and my child is doing this and he was in there, whatever, a video of a child. And, of course, the recovered kids are like, that's just so totally cool. And a lot of people are like, why aren't the videos on the end of the trolls? The trolls will find out who that person was.

 

and they'll go chase them down. Like one of my recoveries, it's a mom in the United States, her son recovered like in 2014, but I did an interview with her maybe about five, six years ago. So he had been recovered, he's not on protocol, he's not doing anything. The trolls got, I mean, I don't know how they're able to do this, but they got the CPS to go to her house, she had to hire an attorney, and her child's not even on any parts of the protocol.

 

You know, but then she had to pay maybe seven, $800 because the attorneys had to get involved. You know, otherwise it'll take your kid from you. Just, I don't understand the governments in the world. I mean, they're listening to these people that have nothing. They have nothing in their hand, but just a big mouth and their face. And they're, you know, making people's lives miserable. Instead of getting out of the way and let the children go on to have the full life that they were intended to have. And of course they're cheapening the diagnosis of autism by people saying, well, I run the Facebook group and this person's bleacher and I'm autistic. You're like,

 

Yeah, you're not autistic. And the kids, our kids with autism, they're mostly nonverbal. There's head banging, there's diapers, there's epilepsy. They're not able to run a Facebook group. They're not even able to open a computer. What are you talking about? you know, there, and maybe there's something spectrumy about people, but you can't confuse the sick children. And again, I disagree with the label autism for our children, vaccine injured. They start off perfectly fine. He is perfectly fine. There he is. And then he gets this thing.

 

which the label is autism, but it's not correct. It's not a correct label. That's all I can call as a label because you call hypothyroidism or you can call cancer, you can call Lyme, these are labels. So autism is a label and it's used to communicate maybe different social ideas or something like that. That's a totally different new thing that they're bringing into it. Our kids are sick and it started in 1940s, that same type of thing.

 

Dr. Rillin, 1964, wrote Infantile Autism. So that's, you this thing that's new, not everybody gets it, not everybody has it. And so this is, they're blending, they're blending a lot of things. Like everybody now is like, I have ADHD, I have autism, I have...

 

Christian Elliot

Same root problem, you're poisoned.

 

Kerri Rivera

Yeah, but it's not. mean if you're able to run hate groups against me and Facebook and on every other thing I Call BS there. Yeah, because our children are not those children. These are children who cannot do anything for themselves They cannot literally they cannot cook for themselves. They cannot clean for themselves They must be cared for all the days of their life So this is do not confuse these things and that's why there's this this vaccine injury that they're calling autism and you know

 

⁓ God willing, RFK Junior changes that in September, but I don't know. ⁓ we can look at the Amish, we can look at them, they have no autism. Or there's a large pediatric practice in Illinois where they've seen, I think, 50,000 kids or more over the last 25 years, and they work with mostly the home school community, and they do not have any vaccinated children, they do not have any cases of autism. So if they wanted to look at, you know,

 

unvaccinated and vaccinated and do those studies. Like I said, you know, from birth to three, they'll find that in the non-vaxxed community, you're going to have zero to almost nothing as far as this, you know, label of autism and the other side is going to be, you know, one in 31 according to CDC in 2025. It's not going to be any different. Yeah.

 

Christian Elliot

Well, thank you for correcting the record and correcting it boldly, but correcting it with a long history of stories and effort to back you up. So I appreciate so much you taking the time. You have definitely over-delivered like I expected you would. So tell people where they can go to find you, your work, anything else you want them to know about you.

 

Kerri Rivera

Well, my name is Kerri Rivera and my website is kerririvera.com and my name is my parents, you know, they had a good sense of humor, Kerri Rivera. My book was just taken down again on Amazon and on Barnes and Noble. So it should be back up at kerririvera.com. printing a bunch of books and so we will.

 

Christian Elliot

For those listening, not watching, spell your name for them.

 

Kerri Rivera

K-E-R-R-I, ⁓ yeah, Keri, K-E-R-R-I Rivera, KerriRivera.com, which is a kind of funky name, that's why it's kind of, you can't really forget it, but KerriRivera, K-E-R-R-I-R-I-V-E-R-A.com. My email is there, I answer all my emails. If you email me from AOL, Hotmail, Yahoo, SBG Global, ⁓ iCloud, I can't answer you back because I'm blocked by those servers.

 

So if you Gmail, ProtonMail, I can get back to you no problem.

 

Christian Elliot

Wow. Yeah.

 

Kerri Rivera

The censorship is just like so high. You're like. No, but that for so long.

 

Christian Elliot

Ridiculous. Yeah. It says you're over the target. You are doing God's work. You are helping heal people and there are those in power that don't want that because you are a threat to their monopoly or their cartel or their

 

Kerri Rivera

Chlorine dioxide is a threat to their everything. It's a threat to everything. We've got to get rid of those useless eaters. Yeah. I mean, we saw what happened over the last five years. mean, died suddenly is a real thing. It's happening all the time. OK, so now we're still 2025. We're kind of on the other side of that first intense one. People are still dying suddenly. ⁓

 

Christian Elliot

No, you're right. So those of us who are willing to speak up about it, please do take this message that Kerri is telling and get it out there everywhere you can. But Kerri, thank you so much for taking the time. I know it's a lot and I know you are busy and in demand. So I so appreciate you. ⁓ And I look forward to just talking to you again in future.

 

Kerri Rivera

Well, thank you very much for inviting me. And, of course, it's always wonderful to be able to talk to other communities, because you have your own community and to talk to other communities and just to bring hope and anything that I can do for anybody. Feel free. I'm always happy because people are like, why can't I buy that stuff? I saw you on so and so. I'm like, kerririvera.com. That's my email. Send me an email. I answer them all.

 

Christian Elliot

Yeah, just don't use the wrong email server. So get a ProtonMail account.

 

Kerri Rivera

Yeah, I can get it. I can get their emails, you know, but I can't respond. So it's, know, the Gmail or the Proton, I can respond, but gosh, the other ones I have to go through, you know, some of them I just have, I have an assistant that ends up sending my emails to them, but it's not the ideal situation because I am.

 

Christian Elliot

I'd say even Gmail, I don't know that that one will last a whole lot longer because that's Google.

 

Kerri Rivera

I know it's gonna go one day, but so far it's still okay, but proton is the way to go.

 

Christian Elliot

Okay, there you go. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for listening today. Thank you, Kerri, for coming and we'll talk soon.

 

Kerri Rivera

Thank you very much.